{"id":26207,"date":"2026-07-24T03:00:03","date_gmt":"2026-07-24T09:00:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/resources2.soundstrue.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=26207"},"modified":"2026-07-24T10:37:05","modified_gmt":"2026-07-24T16:37:05","slug":"phenomena-finale-not-a-machine-but-a-flame-takeover","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/resources2.soundstrue.com\/podcast\/phenomena-finale-not-a-machine-but-a-flame-takeover\/","title":{"rendered":"Phenomena Finale: Not a Machine but a Flame [Takeover]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/art19.com\/shows\/1632d73c-91ea-42a8-a3db-a62b135d081c\/episodes\/55db767e-9329-4b90-b846-d9cc80a5aaeb\/embed?theme=light-custom&#038;primary_color=%23F60F60\" style=\"width: 100%; height: 200px; border: 0 none;\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What is the &#8220;energy&#8221; in energy healing? Healers channel it. Patients reach for it. Ancient healing traditions built entire systems around it, and modern researchers are working to study it. But what is energy, biologically, physically, measurably\u2026but also spiritually, and how does it move through the body to influence health and healing?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In this special feed takeover, we\u2019re bringing you the season finale of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Phenomena: The Science and Stories of Energy Healing,<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in which host Ivy Ross brings together three renowned scientists whose visions, taken together, begin to answer that question:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Martin Picard, PhD<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, of Columbia University, has spent his career studying mitochondria, the body&#8217;s cellular power sources, and has found them far more connected to our inner experience and consciousness than biomedicine ever assumed, and likely far more central to how we heal.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Richard Hammerschlag, PhD<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, co-authored the paper that helped define the modern science of the biofield: the organizing fields of energy and information that operate within the body and extend outward from it, echoing the nested qi fields of older healing traditions.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Neil Theise, MD<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, of NYU, helped identify the interstitium, a major recent discovery of a fluid-filled network running throughout the body that may explain how signals fundamental to health and healing actually travel.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Together, these three voices offer a compelling, deeply human vision of the body and mind not as a machine, but as a dynamic energetic ecosystem.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To close out the season, Ivy and researcher Meredith Sprengel also welcome special guest Jonathan Cohen, co-creator and executive producer of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mayim Bialik&#8217;s Breakdown<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, to help land these big ideas about energy, healing, and life.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This episode marks the finale of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Phenomena<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8216;s first season. 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