{"id":26317,"date":"2026-08-18T03:00:04","date_gmt":"2026-08-18T09:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/resources2.soundstrue.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=26317"},"modified":"2026-08-12T13:58:54","modified_gmt":"2026-08-12T19:58:54","slug":"rob-bell-the-risk-of-not-becoming-more-you","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/resources2.soundstrue.com\/podcast\/rob-bell-the-risk-of-not-becoming-more-you\/","title":{"rendered":"Rob Bell: &#8220;The Risk of Not Becoming More You&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 200px; border: 0 none;\" src=\"https:\/\/art19.com\/shows\/1632d73c-91ea-42a8-a3db-a62b135d081c\/episodes\/62f7e01f-bd54-418e-b3ab-105841b7de50\/embed?theme=light-gray-orange\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What if not doing the thing is the riskier choice?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This week, Tami Simon speaks with Rob Bell\u2014<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">New York Times<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> bestselling author of 14 books and plays, host of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The RobCast<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, and a former pastor\u2014about what he calls his civilian phase. Rob left the role years ago. What surprised him was how long the role stayed with him afterward: &#8220;We leave an external form, and then over the years, the form begins to leave us.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This is an unusually candid conversation. Tami goes first, admitting she didn&#8217;t feel free to fully reveal herself until she had economic security\u2014and Rob meets her there without a tidy answer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Join Tami and Rob to explore:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Why he doesn&#8217;t believe in risk versus no risk\u2014only in risk management, and which risk is actually smaller<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The &#8220;answer man&#8221; conditioning of a job that expected crisp soundbites about the deepest human questions\u2014and what it did to his nervous system<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hiding in plain sight: how public visibility can be its own kind of concealment<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The abyss, the void, the fallow field\u2014learning to stop fighting the empty seasons<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">&#8220;And then I kept going&#8221;: the phrase that came out of pandemic sessions, and why people can&#8217;t see their own resilience<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What shifted when a plant medicine experience dropped his head into his heart<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Toxic positivity, a lineage that didn&#8217;t know what to do with pain, and the son who taught him it&#8217;s okay to be sad<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Why a birch tree scatters 250 million seeds and doesn&#8217;t seem worried about efficiency<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">His father&#8217;s dementia, temporariness, and the strange way mortality heightens aliveness<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Rob will lead an immersive workshop, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Ongoing Creation of Your Life<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, at <strong>Omega Institute, August 30\u2013September 4<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Listen now and hear what it costs to keep standing at a distance from your own life. \u2192<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This conversation offers genuine transmission, not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together, and originally aired on <a href=\"https:\/\/join.soundstrue.com\/free-month-trial-membership\/\">Sounds True One<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":26318,"template":"","meta":{"_expiration-date-status":"","_expiration-date":0,"_expiration-date-type":"","_expiration-date-categories":[],"_expiration-date-options":[]},"categories":[1085,386],"tags":[170],"contributor":[834],"class_list":["post-26317","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-personal-growth","category-spirituality","tag-insights-at-the-edge","contributor-rob-bell"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Rob Bell: &quot;The Risk of Not Becoming More You&quot; | Sounds True<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"noindex, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Rob Bell: &quot;The Risk of Not Becoming More You&quot; | Sounds True\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"What if not doing the thing is the riskier choice? 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