{"id":9057,"date":"2021-06-08T23:05:19","date_gmt":"2021-06-08T23:05:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/resources2.soundstrue.com\/?post_type=transcript&#038;p=9057"},"modified":"2021-06-08T23:05:19","modified_gmt":"2021-06-08T23:05:19","slug":"theres-a-ritual-for-that","status":"publish","type":"transcript","link":"https:\/\/resources2.soundstrue.com\/transcript\/theres-a-ritual-for-that\/","title":{"rendered":"There\u2019s a Ritual for That"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pdfprnt-buttons pdfprnt-buttons-transcript pdfprnt-top-right\"><a href=\"https:\/\/resources2.soundstrue.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/transcript\/9057?print=print\" class=\"pdfprnt-button pdfprnt-button-print\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/resources2.soundstrue.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/pdf-print\/images\/print.png\" alt=\"image_print\" title=\"Print Content\" \/><span class=\"pdfprnt-button-title pdfprnt-button-print-title\">Print Transcript<\/span><\/a><\/div><p><b>Tami Simon:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Welcome to <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Insights at the Edge,<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> produced by Sounds True. My name\u2019s Tami Simon. I\u2019m the founder of Sounds True. I\u2019d love to take a moment to introduce you to the new Sounds True Foundation. The Sounds True Foundation is dedicated to creating a wiser and kinder world by making transformational education widely available. We want everyone to have access to transformational tools, such as mindfulness, emotional awareness, and self-compassion, regardless of financial, social, or physical challenges. The Sounds True Foundation is a nonprofit dedicated to providing these transformational tools to communities in need, including at-risk youth, prisoners, veterans, and those in developing countries. If you\u2019d like to learn more or feel inspired to become a supporter, please visit SoundsTrueFoundation.org.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You\u2019re listening to <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Insights at the Edge<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Today my guest is Ashley River Brant. Ashley is a multi-dimensional artist and healer bringing her medicine through as the creator of Soul Tattoo, a ceremonial intuitive tattooing modality, as well as with film, photography, illustration, writing, and as the host of Weaving Your Web podcast. Her focus is to assist your clients and anyone drawn to her work in awakening to a new wave of feminine power and honoring the creative and intuitive power within us all. With Sounds True, Ashley River Brant is releasing her first book. And get this\u2014she\u2019s just 30 years old. It\u2019s called <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tending to the Sacred: Rituals to Connect with Earth, Spirit, and Self<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. As well, she\u2019s releasing her first oracle deck later this year called <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Messages from the Heart of the Divine Oracle<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. I am so impressed by Ashley River Brant, by her clarity, and, most of all, by her love and generosity. Take a listen.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ashley, by way of you introducing yourself to the Sounds True audience, I wonder if we can start out. You\u2019re just 30 years old and I was reading that you had quite a tumultuous early life, tumultuous childhood, and yet here you are the author of a new book <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tending to the Sacred<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> about deepening our connection with the earth, spirit, and self. Tell us if you will, it\u2019s a big open question in 10 minutes or less how you went from the difficult origin of your life to writing this book.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Ashley River Brant:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well, that is a pretty big question. I think when we experience trauma growing up as so many of us do. We often spend a good chunk of our lives searching, searching for something to make us feel better, to feel healed, to find purpose, to find belonging. This sense of unbelonging really fills us when we don\u2019t have that natural sense of belonging within our family units. That was really strong for me, feeling like I don\u2019t belong and then searching for belonging, searching for home on the earth and within my body and within some sense of family. I really found that through creativity, and I really found that through my creation with the earth, and my connection to the earth. It led me down this path of healing and it led me down this path of ritual, really using ritual as a bridge home, as a bridge to find belonging, as a bridge to find my purpose, as a bridge to find more meaning in life.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I knew my life wasn\u2019t meant to just be painful and traumatizing and tense. I think when we\u2019re born, we are already born wise, we\u2019re born whole, and we are born knowing our purpose. That\u2019s one thing that I felt was never lost within me, even through trauma and a not-so-easy upbringing; I still had a sense of some kind of purpose. I still had a knowing that I had something that I was here to do. That gift of remembering that really kept me focused on this path and kept me\u2014it was just my North Star of knowing that I had to find home within myself. I had to connect back to myself, connect to spirit, connect to the earth, and create the life that I desired. And I knew that I was here to create, and thus the book was born.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> How would you language your purpose?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> That\u2019s an even bigger question. I don\u2019t think purpose is defined by like, \u201cI\u2019m here to be an author.\u201d It\u2019s not really your occupation. But I would say my purpose here is to create and to help other people create, and to create from a space of desire, and a space of purpose, and a space of longing for something greater than maybe the circumstances that you were handed, because we all have this ability to create, even if you\u2019re not a working artist like I am. You were born a creator, and I feel passionate about connecting people back to that creative purpose.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> You write how the book came through you. You describe it like lightning, that <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tending to the Sacred<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u2014which is a 270-page book (and, granted, there are some images in the book, but not that many)\u2014a 270-page book, came through you in a week. You wrote the book in a week. Can you describe\u2014<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Two weeks.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u2014two weeks. OK. Let\u2019s not exaggerate. No need to exaggerate\u2014two weeks! What was that process like for you and how do you understand the process you went through?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Part of it I think was coming to the lands that I live on now. I wrote the book probably two or three weeks after I moved to the Redwoods, Northern California just outside Mendocino. There was something about the land here that was like, \u201cOK, you\u2019re ready. Start writing.\u201d As soon as I opened up my laptop to started writing, it just poured through me. I\u2019ve never experienced that before with another creative project. This is definitely my biggest creative project, so I was definitely really surprised by that. But I think every creation that we set forth to create is an entity. It has its own vibration. It has its own story and frequency, and your job as the vessel for the creation is just to align with that frequency. And I think by moving here, it helped me aligned with that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It just came through me so quickly and there was also this sense that I had already written the book before. Like the words were coming through me faster than I could even type. It was already in my head. I have my oracle deck coming out in October, and that was a completely different story writing that and creating that. I\u2019d say the book is very unique and really special, the way that it feels like an honor how I got to hold space for that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> OK. I\u2019m not going to hold back in this conversation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. Don\u2019t.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. I won\u2019t, and some of that I also think is the gift of your writing; in tending to the sacred, you inspire readers to bring forward their truth and to bring forward their self-expression. Towards the end of the book, you share about a past life memory that came up for you right before you met your publisher\u2014Sounds True, that is. When you just said, \u201cIt\u2019s like I\u2019d written the book before,\u201d it reminded me of this past life memory. I wonder if you can share that, and then I have some questions about that as well. But why don\u2019t you go ahead and share the experience of this memory coming forward?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. I was in Australia in March 2019. (The last few years are just all rolled into one.) I think it was 2019. I had met this woman from a friend, who was this elder woman in the rainforest, and I had a past life progression with her. I had done past life progressions before, but this one was very unique, in that every memory that came through was so directly related to writing this book and to making my oracle deck, to basically aligning with what wanted to come through me. I had this past life memory where I was a man, probably around the same age as I am now, not very old. I was a writer and I lived in this little, cute cottage, a one-room cottage. And around me were all elves and the little people of the earth, fairies and gnomes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They were sitting on the windowsill and on the desk and they were telling me what to write. I was channeling their stories, their message, and it was all about how to live a creative life with nature, with spirit, everything that I share in the book basically. I was writing this book; it was written on a scroll. I wrote the scroll up and they were like, \u201cOK, now we have to get it published.\u201d I took it to the town. (I was in like medieval Europe, but I don\u2019t know if I said that.) I took it to the town, and I met with some publishers, and they all just laughed at me. They all were like, \u201cWhat are you thinking, talking to elves?\u201d It just had that very patriarchal paradigm perspective on spirit.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I felt really defeated and I took my scroll and I left.\u00a0 I was walking back to my home, and I found this child who I was connected to somehow\u2014maybe he was like a nephew or something. I was like, \u201cYou have to protect this scroll, this information, these stories. When the earth is ready, when the people are ready, then you have to share with them.\u201d I gave it to this child, because I knew that the sacred was safe with children and that magic was safe with children, because they weren\u2019t disillusioned by this world that we live in. That was it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I think my question has to do with how when we tap into past life memories. Whether they\u2019re factually true or they\u2019re metaphorically true, let\u2019s leave that alone for a moment. But how we move through the healing process such that we\u2019re empowered in this life, and that we don\u2019t just engage in some repetition compulsion where we\u2019re held back in the same way as we were previously. That\u2019s what I\u2019d like to really understand more about that from your own experience.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. Well, in this particular life, the wound was not believing in myself and the world not believing in me. Which came first doesn\u2019t really matter, but I knew that that is what I had to look at in this life. Could I trust myself to share these teachings that I know are channeled from deep within me, channeled from lifetimes of communion with the natural world, with the little people of the natural world, with the plants, the animals? Could I trust that? Could I believe in myself enough too, despite where the state of our world is? Could I put this work out there? Could I put this work out there, where I\u2019m talking about past lives and spirit and not have that like witch wound come up? That fear of my life or fear of being publicly humiliated; that was the energy in that past life, is public humiliation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The healing process for me looked at tending to that wound: What did I need in order to trust myself? What did I need? What part of me? It\u2019s usually an inner child part needs some nourishment, needs love and encouragement, and where do I need to be my own cheerleader? Where do I need to be my own guide and mentor, to say, \u201cI\u2019m not going to repeat that. I\u2019m going to put this work out there. I\u2019m going to trust myself. I\u2019m going to believe in the story, the medicine.\u201d It took a while. I would say I actually wrote the book in the fall end of summer, 2019. From that time of writing the book until now that has been a lot of my healing process of deepening trust in myself, deepening trust in my voice and the medicine that I carry and not needing to be understood by everyone, not needing to be believed, not needing to be anything. Just trusting in the medicine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I want to go into this just a little bit more, and I\u2019m glad you use this language of \u201cthe witch wound.\u201d I want to talk to that person who\u2019s listeninG who says, \u201cI have a witch wound and I\u2019m right in the middle of it. I\u2019m in the middle of it. And yes, there\u2019s a lot of stuff that I need to feel supported, and I don\u2019t feel safe, and I actually feel afraid. And Ashley is really cool. I really like her. But what about me? I\u2019m right here in the middle. What can Ashley say specifically to me the listener to help me further along? Maybe there\u2019s even a ritual I could do that would be helpful.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> There\u2019s definitely a ritual you can do. With the witch wound, I think the more and more we share our voice because that which wound lives in our throat, it lives in our voice. The more and more we share our voice, maybe it\u2019s just one sentence a day, or just saying your truth to one new friend. It can be a small baby step, but the more we share our voice, the more we free our voice. It actually is that simple yet that hard at the same time. It takes a lot of courage. I think rituals for courage are the best place to anchor when conquering this wound. I know for me, with courage, there are certain symbols that I work with that represent courage to me. With ritual, there\u2019s not like \u201cyou work with this one thing and this plant,\u201d and the symbols are whatever the symbols need to be for you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For me, when I\u2019m working with the energy of courage, I like to really work with the lion, the medicine of the lion. Even when I was going through this really heavily, I made a flower essence blend of all of the medicines that represent courage to me. I took that every day before meditation. I used my breath and I used the element of fire, which I associate with courage, to basically breathe myself into a new level of courage in order to be able to share the way that I do. I do think just on a really practical level, having a support team is really, really helpful. I could not do this on my own [based on] how I grew up, where I came from, if I didn\u2019t have support, if I didn\u2019t have other witches around me. I have a whole group, coven, of witches, my friends, my sisters, my colleagues, who are all walking this path alongside me, and we share and support one another and amplify courage in one another. I think that is truly the most powerful thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Now, you mentioned that in the writing of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tending to the Sacred<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, there was an element\u2014and I think you use this word of \u201cchanneling.\u201d Some people might have stopped listening to our conversation right then when they heard that word (so they won\u2019t be hearing my question now, which is fine). You write that some people call you a medium, but you prefer to refer to your abilities as sacred listening. I wanted to understand more this act of sacred listening?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. Well, just to start, I think that every human being, everything is a channel. Every plant is a channel. Everything is a vessel for the sacred to flow. Yes, there are a lot of stigma attached to the word \u201cchanneling\u201d or to \u201cmedium.\u201d Which is why I like to ground it down and say \u201csacred listening,\u201d because in the simplest of terms, that\u2019s all it is. It\u2019s creating the space to truly listen. To listen to what wants to come through your being. It\u2019s not necessarily something that\u2019s outside of you. It\u2019s something that is invoked, but it takes listening. It takes getting quiet. It takes creating the space, being still. We live in a culture that doesn\u2019t prioritize any of those things. We\u2019re never still, we\u2019re never quiet. We\u2019re really focused on producing and not receiving. Sacred listening requires us to be in a really soft, receptive state. And that takes a little bit of time to cultivate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Another thing you write in the book is that you believe that each one of us has a divine team of support. I wanted to know, specifically, if you could introduce us to your divine team of support. I\u2019m putting you on the spot here, Ashley, but we talked about it, and I\u2019m not going to hold back and you\u2019re not either. So here we go.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes, I respect that. I would say the head of my divine team is my grandmother. She\u2019s definitely the spirit that I feel the most safe and at home with, because she has always been my guide, living and now deceased. The biggest team of support are the plants for me, the plants and the flowers. I commune with the flowers and the plants just as one would commune with their ancestors. I\u2019ve always had this really strong connection, and they speak to me the most frequently, and I would say the loudest as well. A lot of what I share is really informed by the messages that I\u2019ve received from the plants.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Then there are other ancestors, other guides, guides that come and go, depending on what I am working through. Lately I\u2019ve been really guided by the stars, different star beams, and also starfish, just really connecting to the element, that just sacred geometrical element of the star. I don\u2019t necessarily feel that our guides are set. I think we come in with certain guides that stay with us throughout our life, and then we have guides that shift as we shift. We\u2019re constantly evolving and we\u2019re constantly going to have different team members who are going to guide us on the next step.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Ok. I\u2019m imagining different kinds of listeners at this point. Some listeners who are like, \u201cOh, I\u2019m just so happy this is all being spoken on the Sounds True podcast.\u201d Other listeners are going, \u201cSay what? I\u2019d like to have more of my own experience of what Ashley is describing. I\u2019d like to have more of a sense of who my divine support team is. Is there a ritual, and a way I can open up my own sacred listening for that? What would Ashley suggest?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. Two things. One, I think the\u2014I don\u2019t know if I would say the easiest\u2014but a good way to start is just to start with your ancestors. We all have ancestors. We don\u2019t have to make ourselves believe that the spirits of the plants exist. We all have ancestors. We have trillions of them. I think the best place to start is just to look into maybe your most deceased relative on whichever family line that you are feeling more connected to. You can start by just really simple [things], getting to know their name, what they did, where they\u2019re from. Maybe you eat foods that they like to eat or listen to music that they like to eat. Really simple embodied stuff, and then begin to communicate with them, just begin to ask.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Maybe you start to realize your dreams change. You start to receive different types of dreams, or maybe you see signs and synchronicities out in the world in relation to your question, or in relation to that ancestor. Maybe one of your parents starts talking about that ancestor. You\u2019ll begin to pick up on those little trails that spirit is leading you. That\u2019s one way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Another way is just to be really general in meditation. Close your eyes. This is a ritual in itself, just to set the intention to connect to a guide. Maybe you have an intention of \u201cI want to connect to a guide that\u2019s going to teach me peace,\u201d or, \u201cI want to connect to a guide that\u2019s going to help me with my purpose,\u201d or whatever it is for you. Then tapping into sacred listening, tapping into that receptive, still, quiet space, making the time to receive and just being open.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I have the feeling Ashley that no matter what question I ask you, if I include in the question, \u201cCould you suggest a ritual for that?\u201d you would say, \u201cYes,\u201d which is really cool. OK. In the book, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tending to the Sacred<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, you describe how there are four pillars to ritual. I think it would be helpful to go over that. And I\u2019m joking that \u201cthere\u2019s a ritual for whatever,\u201d because there probably <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">is<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> when you understand the pillars and how you can use them in your life. So go ahead and share with us these four pillars in your understanding.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. These four pillars were not something that I really understood before writing the book. They came through me in a way that I was like, \u201cHuh, wow, that makes a lot of sense,\u201d but I had never thought about that before. But when you think of ritual from these four pillars\u2014and the four pillars are belief, love, space, and intention\u2014then everything becomes a ritual when you have those pillars. You can take making your cup of coffee in the morning and you set your intention. You\u2019re creating the space to slow down and really make this cup of coffee; you\u2019re making it with love, and you believe in the power of this coffee that\u2019s going to give you energy today. You just made a routine into a ritual. That\u2019s the whole point of ritual, is to change the routines and the habits and the things that we\u2019re doing mindlessly into a more creative mindful act, and act of tending to the sacred.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, the four pillars. We have intention. Your intention is like the oar of your ship. It\u2019s pointing your boat into the right direction. Without your intention, you\u2019re just aimlessly floating out at sea. There has to be an intention to anchor what it is that you\u2019re trying to create. Maybe our intention is, \u201cI really want to feel more peace today.\u201d Then you move into the next phase, which is space: \u201cLet\u2019s create space for peace.\u201d Maybe this is carving out five minutes to dedicate to peace or creating an altar in your home dedicated to peace. Just creating space in some way, and then love. Love just means your heart is in it. Don\u2019t do anything if your heart is not in. It is number one rule of ritual, number one rule of creativity. Your heart has to be in it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you see all these people posting about the power of this one specific medication, or the power of this one specific ritual, if you\u2019re not feeling connected to it in your heart, just don\u2019t even pay attention. Make sure that your heart is in what you\u2019re doing. Then belief\u2014and belief is really just trust. Can you trust in yourself? Can you trust spirit? Can you trust creation? Can you trust life? Because that is what ritual is all about. It\u2019s trusting that we can be the creators of our lives when we believe that there\u2019s a power within us. There\u2019s a power within the earth. There\u2019s a power within spirit and that we don\u2019t have to be the victims of our lives. We can step into that role of creator.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> OK. Let\u2019s talk to that person who has that trust question mark: \u201cI don\u2019t know. I mean, I can\u2019t make it up. I can\u2019t pretend to trust when I don\u2019t trust. I have to be truthful, and I kinda sorta trust, kinda don\u2019t, sorta. That\u2019s where I\u2019m at.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well, trust is a muscle that grows. It\u2019s something you have to work out. [\u2026] Your trust will grow the more that you do with intention, and then you see the results and then you\u2019re like, \u201cOh hey, that worked.\u201d So, you do it again and you\u2019re like, \u201cWhoa, that really works.\u201d That\u2019s how it is. It\u2019s a slow process. Building trust, it\u2019s a constant workout.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> OK. As I said, I\u2019m not going to hold back. So here you are, and as part of your divine support team, you have a close relationship with star beings, with spirits of flowers, and also of trees, if I heard you correctly. I\u2019m curious if each of these beings, these forces, want to make sure that we humans here are listening to them right now to the most important messages they have for us right now. What in your own art of sacred listening you would deliver to us from the flower? I know that\u2019s big; there\u2019s lots of different flowers. It\u2019s huge. It\u2019s huge, but you just get to give a headline.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well, the biggest thing that I have been receiving from the spirits of nature over the past year is\u2014there\u2019s been so much\u2014but the biggest one has been about creativity, how we as a species have blocked creativity, blocked the full cycle of creativity, because we are afraid to face death and we are afraid to grieve, and we\u2019re afraid to look at what is not pretty or not comfortable, or maybe is painful. That resistance to death has created this resistance to life, and that resistance to life disconnects us from our own creative process. What I\u2019ve been really receiving from nature over the past year is\u2014well, nature has really been helping me finetune my own creative process, getting me really on board with the full process of my creation\u2014but also, teaching that, and teaching how can we reclaim the role of sacred creator. There\u2019s a lot of grief that we need to be working through as a collective right now. We can see that grief really mirrored in the earth. We can see that grief really mirrored in the state of humanity at this time with the global pandemic, and a global pandemic that has been affecting our lungs, which is where we store grief. Maybe that\u2019s all I\u2019ll say about that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well, I think I\u2019m personally tracking with you in terms of the fact that we have to be able to face and process grief in order to be fluid as creators. Tell me though about the part about denying death and how that blocks our creativity?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well, death is creation. Death is birth. Death is not separate from birth. But we live in this current culture where we\u2019re so consumed with producing, birthing, putting out more, looking towards just more and more and more, produce, produce, produce. We don\u2019t really, as a culture, any longer allow process for that. I mean, we can even see in just how our current culture handles funerals. Once upon a time, death was like a two-month celebration. Someone would die in the village and there would be rituals and ceremonies for days and days and days and days. Now we want to rush through it and move forward and move on with the work that we have to do. There\u2019s this disconnect. That\u2019s a reflection of how we\u2019re handling death as a culture\u2014death as in actual people dying, but also in letting go, letting old parts of ourselves die.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We\u2019re always going to be dying and shedding and rebirthing ourselves. This is the nature of being alive, of being human. And we are so afraid to change. We\u2019re so afraid to let go and allow ourselves to become someone new. That\u2019s really holding us back. That\u2019s holding people back from standing in their purpose, or starting the careers that they\u2019ve dreamt of their entire life, or going after what they really want, because they\u2019re afraid. They\u2019re afraid of death. They\u2019re afraid of letting go. I feel really passionate about teaching people that death is powerful. When we allow ourselves to grieve, we are allowing space for new life. I know from just myself and moving through grief\u2014I\u2019ve moved through a lot of losses in my life. Every single time that I allow the power and the energy of grief to move through me, massive transformation comes through my life. Huge. It always blows my mind that the amount of creative energy that comes after death is so powerful. It\u2019s like a miracle.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Advertisement<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> In the mid 1950s in Bangkok, a group of monks discovered that a clay statue of the Buddha was more than it seemed. Underneath the outer of layer of clay, they found the statue was pure gold. The clay had been added centuries earlier to hide the statue\u2019s value from those who might steal it. Tara Brach says that this story illustrates a human experience that we all share, that in order to protect ourselves from suffering, we conceal the beauty of our true nature until even we forget what\u2019s inside. Our work, she says, is to recover our loving creative heart that we\u2019ve hidden from ourselves. That\u2019s the subject of Tara\u2019s new book, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Trusting the Gold<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. You can learn more at trustingthegold.com.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">End of Advertisement<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Let\u2019s give some good ritual medicine to that person who doesn\u2019t feel that confident moving through grief. Sensitive person, feels a lot, knows that grief is something that they get stuck in. What would you suggest from a ritual nature?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> There are two elements that I feel are really powerful when working with grief and wanting to move through the waters of grief, and one is air. So, really connecting to your breath. As I said before, we store grief in our lungs. So, using the breath to create space, create more capacity to hold your grief, is really powerful. Breath is also highly transformative, and then water\u2014using water to soften, using water to let down your guard, to let go and allow the waters of your being to flow. A really simple ritual could be going to a body of water, like the ocean or a creek. If you don\u2019t have a body of water, going to your bathtub or a shower and just connecting to the water. Using your breath to create space, maybe you\u2019re doing some deep breathing, long deep breathing for a certain amount of time. Maybe five minutes, however you feel, and then setting your intention.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Maybe your intention is, \u201cI want to be able to hold my grief. I want to be able to allow grief to pass through me without resistance,\u201d then really imprinting your intention into the water. Water is the most receptive element. Whatever you\u2019re projecting into the water, it\u2019s going to carry that code, that intention. Then using the water to\u2014if you\u2019re in your shower, dunking under the water, pouring the water, if you\u2019re with the ocean or river, putting the water over your head. Just using the water to do a sacred cleanse. Really taking your time and creating space for this ritual and trusting the elements. Trusting that the earth is here to support you and you don\u2019t have to move through your grief alone. You don\u2019t have to carry it all alone, the earth can help carry it with you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Now, I just want to go ahead and be upfront here that I find you a really remarkable human, Ashley.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Oh, well, thank you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Really remarkable human.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Coming from you, that\u2019s such an honor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well, and I mean it. At age 30, that you have processed and transformed so much and are so helpful and generous in your work. I\u2019m awestruck to be honest. What I want to understand more about is really how you grew through your trauma as a person? How did that actually happen?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well, there are more esoteric answers, and then there are some really practical tools that I highly recommend. I\u2019ll share a little bit of both.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Let\u2019s go both.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. First of all, somatic therapy is so powerful for releasing trauma from the body. Just to give some context, in the last three years, I\u2019ve had two miscarriages, which are highly traumatic experiences. In recent years I\u2019ve had a lot of trauma that I\u2019ve had to process, not including the childhood trauma that I\u2019ve been processing for much longer. But I don\u2019t think I would have been able to move through those experiences without somatic therapy, being able to come home to my body, being able to release the trauma response from my body. Somatically, some of my other favorite practices are dance. I have an intuitive dance practice I do basically whenever I\u2019m getting stressed. Or a few times a week at least, I am dancing to release any tension in my body, because stored stress, chronic stress is a trauma.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We\u2019ve got to work on that too. And allowing myself to receive support. I think for a long time on my path, I felt very alone. I felt connected to spirit, but also felt very alone because I didn\u2019t have a lot of people around me who were connected to spirit, and I was really young. My grandma died when I was 18, and that propelled me onto this path. I was like, \u201cOh my God, I\u2019m a medium. I\u2019m talking to my grandmother.\u201d I inherited all these tools from her. So, having the somatic practices and then support, yes. Support, having people around me to help me, not being afraid to ask for help even though I know I\u2019m very capable of self-healing and I teach self-healing. But healers need healers too. That was always hard for me, to allow myself to receive help.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think that\u2019s very normal for traumatized children, who assume the role of parent, or grew up really quickly or have to be really independent in order to survive, which was really my path, of having to be very independent. Meeting my partner was a big, big support, allowing myself to really heal my trauma at the root, because I was able to let love into my life in a really deep way that I had never felt before, maybe ever, besides with my grandmother. I think when it comes to trauma, it\u2019s really important for us to be informed about trauma. To understand what trauma is, how it\u2019s stored in the body, how we actually process trauma. Trauma isn\u2019t something we process with our minds. It\u2019s not in the memory of what happened to us. It\u2019s in the response in our body.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s stored in our body, wherever it is, in your unique body system. We can\u2019t really heal trauma with talk therapy, which I think is the old paradigm way of \u201cOh, you went through this; you should talk to someone.\u201d Talking to people obviously helps. We need to express ourselves to feel heard, to feel validated, but that\u2019s not necessarily going to heal you. I don\u2019t really think there is a one size fits all method for healing trauma. I just think moving the trauma through your body in some way, and having some support is really going to be helpful.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Was that all on the practical dimension? Did we get to the cosmic dimension?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. I guess that was more practical. The cosmic\u2014I would say that having such a close connection to spirit saved my life. I mean, being able to talk and communicate and receive and feel supported by the other worlds really kept me on track and kept me focused. I mean, I was guided. A spirit team member would say, \u201cYou should do this,\u201d or, \u201cHow do you feel about doing this?\u201d or, \u201cYou should talk to this person,\u201d or, \u201cHave you tried somatic therapy?\u201d Very clear downloads would come through me, and the plants would speak really loudly like, \u201cYou should work with this flower and this flower at this time for the specific trauma.\u201d Just [by] listening and coming back to that listening, I really believe that we have within us everything that we need to heal whatever. Whatever has happened to you, whatever trauma you carry, you have all the capabilities, you have all the tools, you have all the wisdom within you. But can you listen to yourself? Can you trust yourself? Can you trust your intuition and how you\u2019re being guided? If you trust that, I guarantee your life will change.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> OK. I\u2019ve never had a specific plant talk to me, let alone talk to me loudly. Can you tell me about what that\u2019s like? What\u2019s going on? I mean, you\u2019re hearing something inside your head. What makes it loud? Maybe give me an example of a plant talking to you and what it said.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well, all spirit used to talk to me very, very loudly. It was like being in a room with a million people talking at once. I had to, over the years, learn very strong boundaries with spirit. That doesn\u2019t really happen to me as much anymore, but if I\u2019m not listening, then that\u2019s when they get really loud. But I\u2019ll give you an example of my latest conversation. This morning I was talking to oat straw. I\u2019ve been feeling pretty stressed out this week. I mean, I don\u2019t know if \u201cstress\u201d is really the right word. I\u2019m about to launch my first book. It\u2019s a really big time in my life. So much change is coming through. I also have been having a pretty intense reaction to pollen. I\u2019ve never really had allergies before.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Anyways, my system has been feeling a little bit inflamed and just fatigued. Last night I was like, \u201cOK, I need a plant ally that\u2019s going to support me right now. This week, I need it immediately. I need to bring my nervous system back into balance. I need to boost my immunity. I need to just feel back in my center.\u201d I heard, \u201coat straw.\u201d So this morning I made oat straw. I sat in meditation with oat straw, and I just went into that sacred listening space. I typically receive messages from spirit through seeing and hearing. I will hear messages and see messages. This morning\u2014I don\u2019t know if you want me to go into\u2014<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> No, no, no. I definitely want to know what you and oat straw talked about.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> OK. Oat straw was telling me\u2014well, first telling me I needed some rest. Sometimes the plants just really tell you straightforward, like, \u201cOK, if you just rested, we would be avoiding all of us right now.\u201d But they also reminded me to see from a higher perspective right now. I was, I think, a little bit in tunnel vision, of all of the things that I needed to do [\u2026] and stepping away from that higher vision of like, \u201cI am creating this stuff to prepare for my first book launch,\u201d kind of expanding out to almost observing myself right now, of observing me in this time of my life. Instead of being in there like, \u201cOh my God, all this stuff was happening.\u201d They reminded me to zoom out and to come back into my grace. To come back into that state of being able to float in between all of the things with a really steady pace. Those were the big messages, and they gave me a bunch of downloads of more things I need to create.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well, let me ask you a question about that, Ashley\u2014and I\u2019ll bring myself forward here in asking this question, which is, when I first met my wife 20 years ago, she would tell me stories of conversations with different helping spirits. And I would say, \u201cIsn\u2019t that just part of your own unconscious that you\u2019re projecting out in this voice because you don\u2019t really want to own it as your own inner wisdom talking to you, so you say it\u2019s the wisdom of blah, blah, blah.\u201d And she just said, \u201cLook, Tami, I\u2019m reporting to you how I\u2019m experiencing it. I don\u2019t really actually know 100 percent that it\u2019s inside me or outside me or what\u2019s going on, but it feels outside me.\u201d And that was enough, and I just stopped grilling her and went on having a harmonious relationship. But I\u2019m curious what your response is to that question of isn\u2019t that just some projection of your own inner wisdom.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Well, I\u2019ve had this same question so many times. Not to me, but coming from myself. I don\u2019t really know if I see the difference. I think when I\u2019m communing with a plant, I\u2019m bringing that plant into me. I\u2019m drinking the plant or I\u2019m taking an essence. I\u2019m bringing that consciousness into me. It\u2019s not outside of me. But still that plant has its own consciousness as well, so we\u2019re just merging. There\u2019s no separation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> OK. You mentioned in your own biography\u2014and I was grateful to hear more of the dots getting connected in your own journey, about how meeting your husband gave another level of love and support and grounding. And I suddenly felt the listener who says, \u201cI want to meet my partner. I don\u2019t have that. That would sure give me a lot of support. And I could open up more to if someone like that was living with me and loving me.\u201d Is there a ritualistic approach that you think, \u201cHuh, that will actually deliver results.\u201d Or is that more just like, \u201cLook, the universe brings you a partner like that when the universe and you are ready. There\u2019s not a ritual for this, come on.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes and no. For me\u2014Andrew is my partner\u2019s name; he came into my life the same exact week that I declared to the universe that I was ready to quit working for another person and to be my own boss and to make a living with my art. Andrew walked into my life the same week. I heard his name whispered to me in this really wild moment in meditation. I was like, \u201cWho is this Andrew?\u201d And then I met him. It was all pretty wild, but I knew that it was because I decided to step into role as creator. That\u2019s what ritual is all about. It\u2019s when you\u2019re ready to be the creator of your life, then everything that you want will just come in there. It doesn\u2019t need to be a ritual to attract love. There can be, if you want to set that intention and set that space to really call them in, but it\u2019s not.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When we do a ritual, it\u2019s not like, \u201cOK, I\u2019m setting this intention. I\u2019m ready to call in the love of my life. I\u2019m trusting myself. My heart is in it. I have the space.\u201d It\u2019s not going to happen tomorrow. It\u2019s not like, \u201cBoom. They arrive.\u201d You\u2019re setting the intention to basically spark creation. There\u2019s death that you have to face\u2014always coming back to that death energy\u2014and there\u2019s, \u201cAre you willing to actually create new life?\u201d There\u2019s going to be tests. There\u2019s going to be tasks that you have to do. For me, I really knew that everything comes back to me being in alignment with my creative energy and my creative power when it comes to my purpose and why I\u2019m here. When I\u2019m really stepping into that role of, \u201cI\u2019m here to share my gifts. I\u2019m here to teach. I\u2019m here to create. I\u2019m here to share beauty, create beauty.\u201d Then everything that I need comes in.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This specific month and time, Andrew came into my life, but also my best friends came into my life, at the same time, all of these things; everything I needed to support me with my mission just came into me like I was a magnet. I think when we want to attract love and partnership, we really have to start with ourselves. We have to make sure that we are in alignment. When we are in alignment, everything else that we need just will align with that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. It seems very powerful what you\u2019re saying, this shift into being a creator, being a creator. And in many ways, that seems like a through line of our entire conversation, talking about your own creativity as your personal way of being in the world. I want to hear a little bit more for that person who\u2019s like, \u201cI think get what Ashley\u2019s saying, but I\u2019m a creator, but I\u2019m at effect with all these other things. Yes, help me a little bit more, Ashley.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Sure. I think the seed of creation, how to really tap into that energy is to first figure out what we desire. [\u2026] We\u2019re living in this culture right now where we are very disconnected from desire. We don\u2019t know what we want. We don\u2019t really have dreams anymore, big dreams or big desires. We\u2019re just going through the motions trying to survive. But when we connect to desire, we can really shift from surviving to thriving. Desire lives at the seat of our being. We all come into this life with a very unique set of dreams and desires. That\u2019s why when you meet a little kid, they know exactly what they want to be when they grow up. They\u2019re like, \u201cI\u2019m here. I want to be a scientist,\u201d and they\u2019re correct.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Then maybe they get conditioned and their parents say like, \u201cNo, you got to do this to make money.\u201d Or maybe they have a teacher that\u2019s like really hard on them. We get shoved in these little boxes that are void of desire. Coming back to our creative nature is really coming back to desire. And what do we want? What are we passionate about? What would make us feel so fulfilled in life? What feels thriving? What\u2019s the vision? What vision do you have for your life? And there\u2019s no vision that is too big. If you can envision it, then it can happen. So I would start there. Casting your vision, figuring out what you want, what do you desire. If you feel like, \u201cOh, I just don\u2019t have desire. I don\u2019t even feel connected to pleasure.\u201d Then step one, before that, is to get back into your body, because if we\u2019re not connected to our body, then we\u2019re going to feel disconnected from that pleasure center, from desire, from what our heart really wants. Coming back to the body.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Very good. Now in <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tending to the Sacred: Rituals to Connect with Earth, Spirit, and Self<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, you offer more than 50 ritual suggestions for people. One of the ones that I thought was particularly unusual, I\u2019d never heard of before, was this notion of creating a self-portraiture as part of a ritual. Tell me about that and how you came to that and what its power is?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes. I\u2019m an artist first and foremost, and my main mediums of expression other than ritual are illustration and film photography. I\u2019ve been shooting in film since I was 18. That\u2019s always been a big part of my path. And maybe in 2014 or \u201815, I was in a really rock bottom place in my life where I was like, \u201cI don\u2019t know what I want to do with my life.\u201d I was in a not great relationship. I feel like I had no support or good friends around me. I was just stuck. So, I started to create a self-portraiture ritual practice with my camera. I didn\u2019t really have so much intention in the beginning. I just was like, \u201cOh, I just need something to bring me back to myself. I guess that was the intention in itself. But I just started to create.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I got the photos back, maybe a few weeks later, I really saw myself. It brought me back to my body. I got to see the beauty that is in this vessel that I was totally abusing at the time. Not taking great care of. I got to see the power of my intention really come into form. Since then, it\u2019s been something that I do maybe once a season. I\u2019ll go out with my camera when I\u2019m going through some transformation, and I want to capture that and throw my intention out into the image. Actually, there\u2019s this quote that I love by Meister Eckhart that says, \u201cWhen a soul wants to experience something, she throws out an image and she steps into it.\u201d That\u2019s really what I think about ritual, and especially this virtual practice of self-portraiture.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You don\u2019t have to use film camera like I do. You can use any medium of expression that calls to you, but it\u2019s just an act of seeing yourself, of coming home to yourself, and seeing maybe there\u2019s flaws, and maybe you witness all your beauty at the same time. It\u2019s seeing yourself in wholeness. When we\u2019re in our heads, we\u2019re not really seeing ourselves, we\u2019re seeing a projection that we\u2019re creating in our minds. But there\u2019s something about materializing the image, and to art, that changes your perspective.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> OK. I just have two final questions for you. Here we are, we\u2019re celebrating the release of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tending to the Sacred: Rituals to Connect with Earth, Spirit, and Self<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, the creation of 30-year-old Ashley River Brant. I predict you\u2019ve got lots of books in you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I think so.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Lots of creative work in you. What a gift for Sounds True to be in relationship with you. What\u2019s your hope for people who pick up this book and find rituals and start exploring them? What\u2019s your hope for them?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> My hope is that people come home to their creative nature, that they remember that they are naturally creative. You don\u2019t have to be a good painter; you are a paintbrush. Your body is a paintbrush. Your soul is an array of colors. You are a masterpiece. All it takes is a little belief, love, space, and intention, and you can create anything.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> And then finally\u2014and this is a bit of an unusual question. Would you be willing to give all of us listening a blessing of some kind, that perhaps flows through you to all of us for this moment in time that we\u2019re in together?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Yes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Thank you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> OK. May we all listening to this recording at this time remember the elements within us. Remember the sacred waters that flow from our hearts. Remember the breath of life, the air that flows through our lungs. May we remember the passion, flames, the desires that burn in our bellies. May we remember that we are rooted here on this earth for a purpose, all connected to one another, all here in relation to the creative nature. May we find our way back to this creative nature that lives within each of us.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I\u2019ve been speaking with Ashley River Brant. The author of the new book <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tending to the Sacred: Rituals to Connect with Earth, Spirit, and Self<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, as well as an oracle deck to come. And I\u2019m so excited to be part of and to watch the next few decades of your life. What a gift you are.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>ARB:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Thank you so, so much. It\u2019s an honor to be here.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>TS:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Thank you for listening to <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Insights at the Edge<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. You can read a full transcript of today\u2019s interview at SoundsTrue.com\/podcast. If you\u2019re interested, hit the Subscribe button in your podcast app. Also, if you feel inspired, head to iTunes and leave <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Insights at the Edge<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> a review. 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