Working with Difficult Emotions – a special free video dialogue

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February 15, 2014

Many of us struggle with the experience of difficult emotions, such as anger, jealousy, sadness, grief, shame, anxiety, and depression. In the face of such challenges, how can we keep our hearts open? What is the most skillful way to work with these difficulties in a way where we remain fully embodied and radically committed to our lives as they are? Is there such a thing as a “negative” emotion? How can we most powerfully grow from the experience of difficulty and to view these challenging experiences as messengers and allies on the path of awakening and love?

We hope you enjoy this special video dialogue with Sounds True authors Karla McLaren and Robert Augustus Masters, two pioneering teachers on the healing potential of skillfully working with difficult emotions, for this inspiring dialogue, moderated by Sounds True publisher, Tami Simon.

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Six Summer Reads You Won’t Want to Miss!

After the stillness of winter and the slow waking of spring, summer is a time for getting up, getting out, and getting our hands on what inspires us the most. Here are some recent Sounds True releases for tapping into a life well lived.

1. The Biophilia Effect – Clemens G. Arvay 

Summer Super Sale - The Biophilia Effect

This is a book that celebrates our interconnection with nature and shows how to deeply engage the natural world wherever you live to dramatically improve your health. Clemens G. Arvay presents fascinating research, practical tools and activities,

inspiring stories, and more in this accessible guide to the remarkable benefits of being in nature.

Get it here: https://www.soundstrue.com/store/the-biophilia-effect.html

 

 

 

 

2. The Healing Code of Nature – Clemens G. Arvay

The Healing Code of Nature - Clemens G. Arvay

Human beings are inseparable from the natural world, coevolving with all of life. In order to thrive, we need to nourish this bond. In his latest book, biologist Clemens G. Arvay illuminates the miraculous ways that the human body interprets the living “code” of plants, animals, and our larger natural habitat for healing and sustenance.

Get it here: https://www.soundstrue.com/store/the-healing-code-of-nature.html

 

 

 

 

 

3. Book of Beasties – Sarah Seidelman

Summer Super Sale - Book of Beasties

“From an ancient perspective, everything—including all natural things, like rocks, flowers, trees, insects, birds, and mammals

—is alive and infused with conscious energy or spirit,” writes Sarah Seidelmann. If you’re one of the many people looking to reconnect with the creativity, wisdom, and vital energy of the natural world, here is a fantastic guide for tapping into the power of animal totems, or “beasties.”

Get it here: https://www.soundstrue.com/store/book-of-beasties.html

 

 

 

4. No Recipe – Edward Espe Brown

Summer Super Sale - No Recipe“Making your love manifest, transforming your spirit, good heart, and able hands into food is a great undertaking,” writes renowned chef and Zen priest Edward Espe Brown, “one that will nourish you in the doing, in the offering, and in the eating.” With No Recipe: Cooking as Spiritual Practice, Brown beautifully blends expert cooking advice with thoughtful reflections on meaning, joy, and life itself.

Get it here: https://www.soundstrue.com/store/no-recipe.html

 

 

 

 

5. Yoga Friends – Mariam Gates & Rolf Gates 

Summer Super Sale - Yoga FriendsFrom the creators of Good Night Yoga and Good Morning Yoga comes a beautifully illustrated city adventure that introduces children to the delights and benefits of partner yoga.

Perfect for teaming up with a friend, sibling, parent, or caregiver, each easy practice shows how cooperation helps us to imagine, move, and have fun in a whole new way.

Includes a back-page guide for parents and caregivers, showing how to do each pose and how to connect them into an easy-to-follow flow.

Get it here: https://www.soundstrue.com/store/yoga-friends.html

 

6. Happier Now – Nataly Kogan

Summer Super Sale - Happier Now

What if you could be happier, right now, without radically changing your life? As nationally recognized happiness expert Nataly Kogan teaches, happiness is not a nice feeling or a frivolous extra. It’s a critical, non-negotiable ingredient for living a fulfilling, meaningful, and healthy life—and it’s a skill that we can all learn and improve through practice. In Happier Now, Nataly shares an illuminating, inspiring, and science-based guide to help you build your happier skills and live with more joy, starting now.

Get it here: https://www.soundstrue.com/store/happier-now.html

 

 

 

 

 

Have other books you’ve read by the poolside or under a shade tree ended up changing the way you see the world? Tell us about those summer reads that ended up being more than you expected!

 

Singing Bowl Meditation Sounds True Spotify Playlist

Sounds True is on Spotify!

Need some tunes for rest and relaxation? Check out our Singing Bowl Meditation Playlist! A variety of artists who make a soothing mix of infinite rhythms using Tibetan singing bowls. Perfect throughout a meditative practice.

 

November New Releases and Giveaway

NOVEMBER NEW RELEASES

 

 

The Integrity Advantage by Kelly Kosow

Are you ready to open up to new levels of self-trust and self-love, to get where you want to go?

You vowed to speak up at work, and then sat silent in the meeting yet again.

You told yourself “this time the diet is going to stick,” only to watch the scale inching up.

You felt that something just wasn’t right about someone that—until you learned the hard way that your instincts were right.

“Every time you bite your tongue,” teaches Kelley Kosow, “you swallow your integrity.”

Before Kelley Kosow was a renowned life coach and CEO, she constantly second-guessed herself, let her “to-do” lists and others steer her dreams and passions, and played it “small and safe.”

Inspired by the groundbreaking principles of her renowned mentor Debbie Ford, who hand-picked Kelley to be her successor, The Integrity Advantage is Kelley’s step-by-step guide for facing the fear, shame, and false beliefs that cause us to lose our way.

Through life-changing insights, true stories, and proven strategies, this book will show you how to live on your own terms—according to you—from the inside out.

 

Daring to Rest by Karen Brody

As modern women, we’re taught that we can do it all, have it all, and be it all. While this freedom is beautiful, it’s also exhausting. Being a “worn-out woman” is now so common that we think feeling tired all the time is normal. According to Karen Brody, feeling this exhausted is not normal—and it’s holding us back. In Daring to Rest, Brody comes to the rescue with a 40-day program to help you reclaim rest and access your most powerful, authentic self through yoga nidra, a meditative practice that guides you into one of the deepest states of relaxation imaginable.

It’s time to lie down and begin the journey to waking up

 

 

 

 

Breathe and Be by Anna Emilia Laitinen and Kate Coombs

Teaching mindfulness helps kids learn to stay calm, regulate their emotions, and appreciate the world around them. With Breathe and Be, author Kate Coombs and illustrator Anna Emilia Laitinen team up to present a book of poetry and art for young readers to make mindfulness easy, natural, and beautiful. Here is a book sure to delight parents and kids alike, blending lovingly illustrated nature imagery with elegant verse about living with awareness and inner peace.

 

 

 

 

Leopard Warrior by John Lockley

A Teaching Memoir That Crosses the Barriers Between Worlds

A shaman is one who has learned to move between two worlds: our physical reality and the realm of spirits. For John Lockley, shamanic training also meant learning to cross the immense divide of race and culture in South Africa.

As a medic drafted into the South African military in 1990, John Lockley had a powerful dream. “Even though I am a white man of Irish and English descent, I knew in my bones that I had received my calling to become a sangoma, a traditional South African shaman,” John writes. “I felt blessed by the ancient spirit of Africa, and I knew that I had started on a journey filled with magic and danger.” His path took him from the hills of South Korea, where he trained as a student under Zen Master Su Bong, to the rural African landscape of the Eastern Cape and the world of the sangoma mystic healers, where he found his teacher in the medicine woman called MaMngwev

 

 

Things That Join the Sea and the Sky by Mark Nepo

A Reader for Navigating the Depths of Our Lives

The Universe holds us and tosses us about, only to hold us again. With Things That Join the Sea and the Sky, Mark Nepo brings us a compelling treasury of short prose reflections to turn to when struggling to keep our heads above water, and to breathe into all of our sorrows and joys.

Inspired by his own journal writing across 15 years, this book shares with us some of Mark’s most personal work. Many passages arise from accounts of his own life events—moments of “sinking and being lifted”—and the insights they yielded. Through these passages, we’re encouraged to navigate our own currents of sea and sky, and to discover something fundamental yet elusive: How, simply, to be here.

To be enjoyed in many ways—individually, by topic, or as an unfolding sequence—Things That Join the Sea and the Sky presents 145 contemplations gathered into 17 themes, each intended to illuminate specific situations.

 

 

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WIN OUR NEW RELEASE BUNDLE:The Integrity Advantage, Daring to Rest, Breathe and Be, Leopard Warrior, and Things That Join the Sea and the Sky

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David Whyte on Being at the Frontier of Your Identity

There is a particular kind of tiredness that comes from trying to hold a fixed idea of who we are, year after year, as everything around us keeps changing anyway. David Whyte built an entire body of work around that tension, and Sounds True founder Tami Simon has called her conversation with him one of the most beloved episodes in Insights at the Edge history, still resonating with new listeners more than a decade after it first aired. Something about the way Whyte speaks, unhurried and image-rich, seems to reach people in exactly the season of life where old answers have quietly stopped working.

Sounds True has carried David Whyte’s poetry, prose, and audio programs for years because few voices manage to speak so plainly to both the individual soul and the modern workplace at once. His willingness to bring genuine poetry into rooms built for spreadsheets and quarterly targets reflects the same spirit our founder set out to preserve back in 1985: teaching captured in its own unscripted, living voice. 

What follows traces the frontier Whyte describes between who we were and who we are becoming, how exile trains us for that edge, and why a Yorkshire poet ended up teaching creativity inside boardrooms at Boeing and American Express.

Key Takeaways:

  • Originality Has an Address: Learn why David Whyte locates creativity at the frontier of identity, not behind it.
  • Exile Is a Skill: Understand why Whyte treats feeling like an outsider as something to develop, not escape.
  • Poetry Enters the Boardroom: See how poetry and leadership intersect in Whyte’s decades of corporate work.

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Originality Lives at the Edge, Not the Center

Whyte traces originality back to what he calls an edge identity, a frontier conversation that shows up across many of the world’s wisdom traditions. Reality itself, in his framing, is conversational rather than fixed, which means the self is never a finished project so much as an ongoing exchange with everything it meets. 

Sounds True’s founder has described sitting with fourteen pages of notes on his teaching and underlining nearly every line, a reaction that says something about how differently Whyte approaches familiar questions of purpose and change, treating originality as a place a person stands rather than a trait they possess. 

You can hear the full exchange in David Whyte on Being at the Frontier of Your Identity, still one of the most requested episodes in the archive.

Exile as a Core Human Competency

Rather than treating exile, the felt sense of not quite belonging, as a wound to heal, Whyte reframes it as a competency worth developing on purpose. Most people spend enormous energy trying to eliminate the feeling of being an outsider, whereas Whyte suggests the more useful move is to learn to work with it deliberately. A few ideas anchor this reframing:

  • Exile Sharpens Perception: Standing slightly outside a group often reveals what belonging obscures.
  • Competency, Not Condition: Whyte treats exile as a trainable skill rather than permanent exclusion.
  • Frontier Over Center: Growth tends to happen at edges, not in comfortable middles.

This distinction matters because it removes the shame often attached to feeling like an outsider. Instead of a problem to solve, exile becomes a vantage point worth returning to on purpose.

The Frontier of Identity as a Living Threshold

The frontier of identity, Whyte’s central image, is not a line crossed once and left behind. It is a threshold a person returns to repeatedly, every time old certainties no longer fit a new season of life. Whyte suggests that vulnerability, often treated as weakness, actually functions here as enhanced perception, a heightened sensitivity that lets a person notice what a settled identity tends to miss.

He describes reality itself as conversational, meaning the self is shaped less by fixed traits and more by an ongoing exchange with circumstances, relationships, and unexpected turns. Standing at this frontier repeatedly, rather than resolving it once, is what Whyte considers the actual work of a lived, honest life.

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Poetry and Leadership: An Unlikely Partnership

Long before this conversation, Whyte had already built a second career inside corporate life, consulting for companies including Boeing, Kodak, and American Express. His bestselling book, The Heart Aroused, argued that corporations suffered from too little poetry and too little humanity, a critique that landed him on business bestseller lists rather than only poetry shelves. This pairing of poetry and leadership runs through nearly everything Whyte has written since, treating verse not as decoration for executives but as a discipline for genuine reflection.

Whyte has predicted that the very word manager will eventually give way to something more alive with possibility, a shift he sees poetry as uniquely equipped to prepare leaders for. Rather than offering leadership frameworks or checklists, his workshops use verse to slow a room down enough to notice what usual business language tends to skip over entirely.

  • Work as Pilgrimage: Whyte frames a career less as a task list and more as a journey of identity.
  • Burnout Reconsidered: He suggests exhaustion can signal a need for renewal, not simple failure.
  • Conversational Leadership: Genuine leadership, in his view, requires ongoing dialogue, not fixed authority.

Tapping the Invisible Support That Surrounds Us

Whyte closes much of his teaching on a note of quiet reassurance: that unseen support often surrounds a person exactly when they feel most exposed at the frontier of their own becoming. Recognizing this support, rather than assuming isolation, changes how a person approaches uncertainty, whether it shows up as a career change, a creative block, or a simple shift in how someone sees themselves.

Where Poetry Meets Everyday Attention

Whyte often describes a good poem as revelatory, something that takes hold of a reader and surprises them into new understanding rather than confirming what they already believed. This distinction matters for how he teaches: poetry, in his hands, is not a retreat from ordinary life but a way of paying closer attention to it. A single well-chosen image, he suggests, can reorganize how someone relates to a problem that logic alone has failed to move.

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Final Thoughts

David Whyte’s teaching never promises a finished self waiting somewhere ahead. It offers something steadier: the frontier itself as home ground, revisited again and again across a lifetime of work and relationship. What makes this conversation endure, more than a decade after it first aired, may be exactly that refusal to offer a tidy arrival point. 

Sounds True keeps returning to this conversation because it captures exactly what our mission asks of us, waking up to the edges we usually try to avoid rather than the comfortable center we think we want.

If Whyte’s words found you today, his fuller catalog of poetry and prose is waiting to keep the conversation going, one frontier at a time.

Frequently Asked Questions About David Whyte

Who is David Whyte?

He is a Yorkshire-born poet, author, and Fortune 500 consultant known for blending poetry with leadership.

What Sounds True programs feature David Whyte?

Sounds True has released Clear Mind, Wild Heart and What to Remember When Waking with David Whyte.

Does David Whyte only write poetry?

No, he has also authored prose books, including Crossing the Unknown Sea and The Heart Aroused.

What companies has Whyte worked with as a consultant?

He has led workshops at Boeing, Kodak, American Express, and Bristol-Myers Squibb, among others.

What podcast features this conversation with Whyte?

It appears on Insights at the Edge, hosted by Sounds True founder Tami Simon.

Is this conversation relevant outside creative fields?

Yes, Whyte’s ideas on identity and leadership apply broadly across careers, relationships, and life stages.

Where can I explore more spiritual teachers like David Whyte?

Visit our All Teachers & Authors page to browse voices across many traditions and disciplines.

Does Sounds True offer related content on purpose and vocation?

Yes, related titles appear throughout our Conscious Business and Spirituality & Awakening collections.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

Reverend angel Kyodo williams: Warrior Spirit

Most people come to meditation looking for a break, a few quiet minutes away from a world that rarely slows down on its own. Reverend angel Kyodo williams spends much of this conversation gently taking apart that assumption, suggesting that real stillness was never about leaving the world behind at all. It’s a small shift in framing that ends up changing everything about how the rest of her teaching lands.

Rev. angel is an ordained Zen priest, activist, and founder of the Center for Transformative Change, recognized as the world’s second female Zen teacher of African descent and the author of Being Black and Radical Dharma. 

Sounds True has featured her teaching across our Meditation Summit and A Year of Mindfulness precisely because she refuses to separate inner practice from outer justice, treating the two as a single continuous act rather than competing priorities. What follows traces her case for a warrior spirit built on presence rather than escape, and the meditation practice she offers as its foundation.

Key Takeaways:

  • Retreat Isn’t the Goal: Learn why angel Kyodo williams reframes meditation as engagement, not escape.
  • Effort Meets Release: Understand the meditation practice she developed for people doing social change work.
  • A Different Kind of Fearlessness: See what warrior spirit means when it’s rooted in love rather than force.

Retreat Is Not What It Looks Like From Outside

Rev. angel opens by naming something many practitioners feel but rarely say aloud: the pull toward meditation often comes wrapped in a longing to retreat from an overwhelming world. She doesn’t dismiss that longing, but she does redirect it, suggesting that genuine practice engages our inner fullness rather than fleeing from outer noise. What looks like withdrawal from the outside, she argues, is closer to a deepening than a departure, a distinction that reframes the entire purpose of sitting down to practice in the first place.

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Effort and Release Meditation: A Practice Born From Movement Work

Rev. angel developed a specific meditation practice she calls Effort and Release after years spent working alongside people doing demanding social change work. The practice blends deliberate effort with intentional letting go, addressing a pattern she noticed constantly among activists and organizers: a strong pull toward doing, accomplishing, and pushing that rarely leaves room for rest. She describes meditation and social change as inseparable, since the way a person relates to their own mind directly shapes what they find themselves willing to engage with in the wider world.

  • Naming the Pattern: Many changemakers carry a constant urgency that outlasts any single campaign, even during rest.
  • Effort With Purpose: The practice doesn’t reject action, only unconscious, exhausting overdrive.
  • Release as Skill: Letting go is treated as an active discipline, not passive collapse or avoidance.

Hear the complete teaching in her episode, Reverend angel Kyodo williams: Warrior Spirit

Inner Life and Outer World as One Continuous Fabric

A central thread running through Rev. Angel’s teaching rejects any hard line between internal awareness and external action. She describes our self-talk, the noise level of our minds, and our capacity for presence as directly shaping how we show up for others and what we find acceptable in the wider world. This isn’t a metaphor for her; it’s closer to a working principle behind everything she teaches, from meditation instruction to movement strategy. 

What we tolerate in the world outside us, she suggests, tends to trace directly back to what we’ve grown accustomed to tolerating within our own minds first, which is why she treats internal clarity as a precondition for meaningful external change rather than a separate, optional pursuit.

Warrior Spirit Rooted in Fearlessness, Not Force

The phrase “warrior spirit,” drawn from her earlier book Being Black, describes something quite different from combativeness or aggression directed outward at the world. For Rev. Angel, this spirit is built on truth-telling and responsibility, a foundation for genuine happiness rather than a posture of defensiveness. It asks practitioners to stay engaged with difficulty, including the difficulty of racism, patriarchy, and other inherited harms, rather than looking away or numbing out. This framing has resonated widely since the book’s original publication, offering readers across many backgrounds a way to hold fearlessness and tenderness together rather than treating them as opposites.

  • Truth Before Comfort: Warrior spirit requires naming what’s actually happening, even when it’s unwelcome.
  • Grace Alongside Fearlessness: Strength and tenderness are treated as complementary, not opposites.
  • Responsibility as Practice: Taking ownership of one’s own patterns becomes part of the discipline itself.

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Bridging Personal Transformation and Collective Justice

Rev. angel has spent more than fifteen years shaping what she calls Transformative Social Change, a field built on the belief that lasting justice work requires equally serious inner work. She resists treating meditation as a private escape hatch separate from activism, instead framing contemplative practice as fuel for sustained, clear-eyed engagement with collective harm. Burnout among organizers, in her view, often stems from skipping this inner dimension entirely, treating stillness as optional rather than structural to the work itself. She has described this field as one she helped name and shape, watching it grow from a personal conviction into a recognized approach embraced across activist and spiritual communities alike.

What Radical Dharma Adds to This Conversation

Rev. Angel’s later book, Radical Dharma, co-written with Lama Rod Owens and Jasmine Syedullah, extends this same warrior spirit into a direct examination of race, love, and liberation within Buddhist communities themselves. The book argues that spiritual communities are not exempt from the patterns of harm found elsewhere in society, and that genuine awakening has to include an honest reckoning with those patterns rather than a spiritual bypass around them. This willingness to hold institutions, including her own tradition, accountable runs consistently through everything she teaches, from her earliest writing through her more recent contributions to Sounds True’s programming.

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Final Thoughts

Reverend angel Kyodo williams doesn’t offer meditation as a rest stop from the world’s demands. She offers it as a training ground for staying present with those demands without losing ourselves inside them. That distinction, subtle but significant, may be exactly what separates spiritual bypass from spiritual maturity, and it’s the thread that ties her meditation teaching to her justice work without contradiction. Listeners who come looking for a quick escape often leave with something more durable instead: a practice for staying rooted precisely where things are hardest. 

Sounds True continues sharing her teaching because our mission to wake up the world has never meant looking away from what’s hardest to face, and few teachers hold that tension as steadily as she does. Her books and audio programs remain in our library for anyone ready to bring the same steadiness into their own life and work.

Frequently Asked Questions About angel Kyodo williams

Who is Reverend angel Kyodo williams?

She is an ordained Zen priest, activist, author, and founder of the Center for Transformative Change.

What books has she written?

Her books include Being Black: Zen and the Art of Living with Fearlessness and Grace and Radical Dharma.

What is the Effort and Release practice?

A meditation method blending deliberate effort with intentional letting go, developed for activists and organizers.

Is this teaching only relevant to activists?

No, her ideas on presence and inner work apply to anyone navigating stress, urgency, or burnout in daily life.

What does warrior spirit mean in her teaching?

A fearless, truth-telling posture grounded in responsibility and grace, not aggression or combativeness.

Has Sounds True featured her in other programs?

Yes, she has appeared in Sounds True’s Meditation Summit and A Year of Mindfulness series.

What is the Center for Transformative Change?

An organization she founded connecting inner personal work with large-scale social transformation.

Where can I hear more conversations like this one?

Explore our Insights at the Edge Podcast for further interviews on mindfulness, justice, and social engagement.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

Iyanla Vanzant On Truth Is Light

What happens when the world around you feels like it has lost its grip on truth, and you’re left wondering how to hold onto faith anyway? That question sits at the heart of the exchange between Tami Simon and Iyanla Vanzant, one of the most trusted voices in personal empowerment today. 

Over 40 years, we at Sounds True have been devoted to bringing you the living wisdom of teachers like Iyanla Vanzant, an author of five New York Times bestsellers and a familiar face to millions as the host of Iyanla: Fix My Life. As the world’s largest living library of transformational teachings, and home to Tami Simon’s Insights at the Edge, we exist to preserve these conversations in their true, unscripted form. 

What Iyanla and Tami uncovered reaches into territory many of us have been quietly longing to name: intimacy with the divine, the erosion of trust and integrity, and the calling that shapes who you really are. 

Key Takeaways:

  • Faith Is a Practice, Not a Belief: Intimacy with the divine is a relationship you return to daily. Iyanla Vanzant reminds us that faith in difficult times is the practice that keeps you grounded when certainty runs out and the path forward feels unclear. 
  • Reclaiming Values We’ve Lost: Integrity, accountability, and trust are slipping quietly from modern life. Iyanla Vanzant and Tami Simon reflect on what this costs us personally and collectively, and what it takes to reclaim these values through honest daily living. 
  • Your Calling Reveals Your True Self: Rather than searching for purpose separately from identity, Iyanla Vanzant teaches that answering your calling is what gives birth to your most authentic self, with truth as the light that makes the path visible.

Cultivating Intimacy With The Divine

At the heart of what Iyanla Vanzant shares is something many of us long for but rarely name aloud: an intimate, ongoing relationship with God. A living connection you return to daily, the way you would a trusted friend. This is where everything else begins. 

Iyanla Vanzant reminds us that faith is lived, returned to moment by moment, a practice built most steadily through the very times when doubt feels easier than trust. That distinction matters more than it might first appear. Trying times reveal whether your faith is a story you tell about yourself or a relationship you live inside, moment by moment, choice by choice. 

We invite you to sit with that difference for a moment. Where in your life are you being asked to move from believing in something to actually leaning into it, even when the outcome is not yet clear, and even when trust feels like the harder path?

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Values We’re Losing And Why They Matter

Beyond the personal work of faith, Iyanla Vanzant and Tami Simon turn their attention outward to something both women see slipping away in modern life. It is a quiet loss, the kind that shows up in small daily interactions long before it becomes a headline. Their conversation names three specific casualties worth sitting with:

Integrity

Iyanla Vanzant speaks to integrity as something deeper than simply telling the truth. The alignment between what you say, what you believe, and how you show up in the world each day. When that alignment breaks down, even in small ways, something essential within a community begins to quietly erode. A person who values honesty but withholds difficult truths from the people they love is already living out of alignment. 

Accountability

Accountability emerges as a value that seems increasingly rare: the willingness to own your actions and their consequences without deflecting or minimizing what happened. Iyanla Vanzant and Tami Simon reflect on what it costs a society when people stop holding themselves responsible to one another and to the truth. When accountability disappears from daily life, trust erodes alongside it, and the small moments of honesty that rebuild it become more vital. 

Trust

Perhaps most tender is their reflection on trust itself. Iyanla Vanzant speaks to how trust, once assumed as a baseline of human connection, now feels harder to extend and even harder to earn back. That raises an honest question about what it truly takes to rebuild something so foundational to how we relate. 

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Your Unique Calling And The Self It Reveals

The exchange moves toward something deeply personal: the idea that every person carries a calling that is theirs alone to discover. Iyanla Vanzant and Tami Simon treat this as a truth available to anyone willing to sit with it. Three related threads open from there: 

  • Everyone Carries A Calling: Iyanla Vanzant speaks to the idea that a calling is not something reserved for the chosen few. It belongs to every person, waiting to be recognized rather than invented. This reframes the search for purpose as less about creating something entirely new and more about quietly uncovering what was already there within you all along.
  • Calling As The Birthplace Of Authenticity: Iyanla Vanzant and Tami Simon reflect on how answering your calling is what gives rise to your most authentic self. Purpose and identity are born together. The calling gradually shapes who you become, gently and surely, as you live in closer alignment with what you are here to do. Many of us spend years trying to figure out who we are before we feel ready to act. 
  • Truth As The Light That Reveals The Path: This is where Iyanla Vanzant on Truth Is Light offers its most grounding insight: truth is the light that makes your calling visible. Living honestly, with yourself and with what you believe, is what allows your calling to come into focus, clearing away the confusion and doubt that keep it hidden.

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Final Thoughts

What stays with you is a felt sense of what it means to live honestly, with yourself, with the divine, and with the people around you. Iyanla Vanzant and Tami Simon remind us that faith in difficult times is about staying in relationship with something larger than the moment you are in, even when that moment feels unresolved. The quiet challenge they leave us with is this: notice where integrity, accountability, and trust have faded in your own life, and consider what living in closer alignment with your true calling might look like.

The teachings Iyanla Vanzant brings forward are part of a larger body of work we have been honored to carry for over 40 years. At Sounds True, we believe that wisdom shared becomes wisdom lived. Wherever these ideas meet something real in you, we encourage you to keep going. Our courses, community, and programs are here to hold you as you do.

Frequently Asked Questions About Iyanla Vanzant On Truth Is Light

Who is Iyanla Vanzant?

Iyanla Vanzant is an author and television host known for five New York Times bestsellers and her role as host of Iyanla: Fix My Life, along with several audio programs created with Sounds True.

What is this Iyanla Vanzant episode about?

This episode is a conversation between Iyanla Vanzant and Tami Simon exploring intimacy with the divine, fading values like trust and integrity, and the unique calling that shapes your most authentic self.

How do I hold onto faith when life feels hard?

Iyanla Vanzant reminds us that faith is not something you simply have but something you practice daily, especially when life gives you every reason to doubt and lose your footing.

Why do integrity, accountability, and trust matter so much right now?

Iyanla Vanzant and Tami Simon reflect on these values as ones quietly fading from modern life, and what is lost personally and collectively when we stop holding each other accountable.

How do I discover my own calling?

Iyanla Vanzant teaches that your calling is uncovered through living in truth with yourself, not invented from scratch. Our online courses offer structured paths for going deeper into this kind of work.

What does it mean to cultivate intimacy with God?

For Iyanla Vanzant, intimacy with the divine means a living, ongoing connection you return to daily, much like a trusted friendship, rather than a distant faith reserved only for hard times.

Where can I listen to more conversations like this one?

You can hear the full episode on Insights at the Edge, and find more conversations like it through Sounds True One, our community membership for ongoing teachings.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

2 comments on Working with Difficult Emotions – a special free video dialogue

  1. Lezah Young says:

    Tried to watch the Robert and Karla’s video but it doesn’t appear to be working. Is there something I need to know to make it work hopefully?

    Thanks,

    Lezah Young

  2. Matt Licata says:

    Dear Lezah, it’s nice to hear from you and sorry you’re unable to view the video. We have tested it here on all three browsers and it seems to be streaming just fine. Are you able to try again? If you’re still not able to get it to play, can you please send to me which browser/ version/ operating system you’re trying on and I can ask the team here to troubleshoot? Alternatively, you could visit https://vimeo.com/77519437. Take care and thank you for stopping by.

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