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November 20, 2017

When to say “No” & “Yes”

One of the most exhausting stress loops for women starts with saying “yes” when we feel “no”. Becoming your most authentic self is the first step to learning what a “no” and a “yes” feel like in your body. We often tell women to say no more, but equally as troublesome is that we also don’t feel and then follow our yeses.

Here’s a quick way to practice sensing what “yes” and “no” feel like to you:

  1. Put your hand on your heart and gut.
  2. Place your attention at the space between your eyebrows (your third eye).
  3. Inhale from the space between your eyebrows to the base of your spine, while mentally saying “Sooooo.” Then exhale from the base of your spine to the space between your eyebrows while mentally saying the sound, “Hummmmm.” Repeat twice more.
  4. Be still as you rest your attention on your third eye for 20 to 30 seconds.
  5. Call up a question you want an answer to, and see if you feel a “yes” or “no.”

For women who have lots of decisions to make, like mothers, I often suggest making a list of all the things stressing them out, and then, on the same day every week, doing this practice, seeing if they get a “yes” or “no” for each item on the list. This is also a great practice to do weekly when you’re pregnant, because giving birth centered in your true self, knowing your “yes” and “no,” is the best gift you can give your baby.

Using this practice to help make decisions will help you stop overdoing. You begin with feeling, drop your ego, and then, from your true nature, make decisions that end the worn-out feeling. Beware of mistaking things you love to do as a “yes.” For example, many of the creative moms I work with love to cook, but when they use this practice to ask whether they want to stay up cooking cupcakes late at night for their children’s school when they have work the next day, the answer they get might well be “no.”

Sometimes you may be faced with a difficult “no”: your inner wisdom will tell you that saying “no” to something will liberate time, but saying “no” may not feel good right away or may disappoint someone. If this happens, I encourage you to say “no” anyway. If you want to feel well-rested, you need to make the choice that supports your wholeness.

 

Love Yourself First

Most of us have heard flight attendants on an airplane say, “Put your own oxygen mask on first, and then secure your loved one’s.” This is an important message that well-rested women get in every bone of their bodies: love yourself first. The first thing your loved ones need is a healthy you. Here are two ways to do that.

 

  • Give Kindness
    • When you’re spinning in mental loops and stressed out, it’s hard to be kind to yourself or others. But as I always say after yoga nidra, I feel like I drank a cup of kindness. To capitalize on and reinforce this feeling, repeat this loving-kindness meditation.
      • Say to yourself:
        • May I be happy.
        • May I be safe.
        • May I be free of physical pain and suffering.
        • May I be able to recognize and touch harmony and joy in myself.
        • May I nourish wholesome seeds in myself.
        • May I be healthy, peaceful, and strong.

Notice how you feel in your body. When you’re ready, you can move on to saying the words for others: May (name of a loved one) be happy. May (he/she) be safe.

 

  • Go on Wonder Dates
    • Schedule quiet time for yourself. My friend and colleague Jeffrey Davis, of Tracking Wonder, a creative branding company, loves to say, “Wonder is not kid’s stuff. It’s radical grown-up stuff.” That’s right, taking time for wonder is an essential multi-vitamin for adults, too. It helps clear your mind and relax the body.
    • What’s wonder? It’s a time to be curious, to not know something. It’s the gratitude and amazement we feel when we see a shooting star or a beautiful full moon. Try finding a quiet space to read poetry, or sitting in a tree and then journaling about what you see and how it makes you feel. Many spots in nature call up wonder. Wonder sparks ideas, so the more time you spend in wonder, the juicer you will feel when you return to your everyday life.
    • And if you think you don’t have time, think again. Jeffrey has two little girls, and as he says, he “sculpts time” for wonder by intentionally planning space to wonder into his calendar.

 

Looking for more great reads?

 

 

Excerpted from Daring to Rest, by Karen Brody.

Karen Brody is a speaker and the founder of Bold Tranquility, a company offering yoga nidra meditation for the modern women via downloadable products and workshops. Her work has been featured in Better Homes & Gardens, and she’s a regular contributor to The Huffington Post. She’s also a critically acclaimed playwright. Karen had a long personal history of severe panic attacks until she found yoga nidra meditation over a decade ago. At that time, she was a sleep-deprived mother of two small children on anti-anxiety medication. She signed up for a yoga nidra meditation class simply looking to lie down for a nap. What she got was “the best nap of her life.” As she continued to practice yoga nidra regularly, her deep fatigue lifted; she wrote a critically acclaimed play, got off anti-anxiety pills, and started to teach this yoga nidra “power nap” to every exhausted mother she knew.

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Karen Brody is a women’s well-being and leadership expert who helps women journey from worn out to well rested and then dream big in their work and lives. A certified yoga nidra instructor, she is the founder of Daring to Rest™, a yoga nidra-based self-empowerment program for women. She has an MA in Women and International Development from the Institute of Social Studies in the Netherlands, and a BA in sociology from Vassar. Karen is also a playwright, and Birth, her theater-for-social-change play has been seen in over 75 cities around the world. She is the mother of two boys and met her husband in the Peace Corps. She resides in Washington, DC, but considers the world her home.

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4 Ways to Rest This Holiday Season

Karen Brody — December 19, 2019

Giving yourself permission to rest during the holiday time is perhaps the most radical—and life-saving—act you can do. Here are a few easy ways to give yourself the gift of rest. Your family and friends will thank you—and might just lie down too!

Meditate Every Morning or Evening

If you have 15-minutes, try practicing yoga nidra meditation, a guided meditation also known as yogic sleep. This is supreme relaxation. You can find yoga nidra online. If you don’t have that kind of time, silent meditation for even just 3 minutes every day can feel restful. Close your eyes, and notice your breath. You can repeat a mantra or a relaxing word as you breathe in and out. If family is visiting and you don’t have a quiet spot in the house, meditate in your car or even in the bathroom!

Breath Counting

We tend to forget just how restful it can feel to breathe. Breath counting pulls the mind away from stress and towards a more centered, balanced feeling. To practice, count backwards slowly, with rhythmic inhalations and exhalations, and say to yourself as you breathe, “Breathing in, 11, breathing out, 11, breathing in, 10, breathing out, 10.” And so on, counting down to one. You do this while breathing the whole body or engage a chakra and breathe into that area. Befriend the breath.

Walking Meditation (extra points for bare feet!)

If you’re stressed over the holidays, walk in silence on the ground for five minutes or more. As Thich Nhat Hanh says, “Walk as if your feet are kissing the earth.” Walking bare-footed is ideal—outside or in your home. More and more evidence suggests that we need the Earth’s electrons for our well-being—it improves sleep, pain management, and stress. If you can’t walk in silence, try cooking your holiday meal mindfully in bare feet, Your body will thank you.

Watch the Sun Set or Rise

Sunrise and sunset are mystical times of the day. Busy lives don’t easily give us access to the soul. During sunset and sunrise the veils of illusions, which pull us away from our truest self, are thin. We can see ourselves more clearly and feel more intuitive and creative. If you can, watch the sun set or rise in silence. Your nervous system will thank you.

Karen Brody Karen Brody is a women’s well-being and leadership expert who helps women journey from worn out to well rested and then dream big in their work and lives. A certified yoga nidra instructor, she is the author of Daring to Rest: Reclaim Your Power with Yoga Nidra Rest Meditation, founder of Daring to Rest, a yoga nidra-based self-empowerment program for women. She has an MA in Women and International Development from the Institute of Social Studies in the Netherlands, and a BA in sociology from Vassar. Karen is also a playwright, and Birth, her theater-for-social-change play has been seen in over 75 cities around the world. She is the mother of two boys and met her husband in the Peace Corps. She resides in Washington, DC, but considers the world her home.

The community here at Sounds True wishes you a lovely holiday season! We are happy to collaborate with some of our Sounds True authors to offer you wisdom and practices as we move into this time together; please enjoy this blog series for your holiday season. 

To help encourage you and your loved ones to explore new possibilities this holiday season, we’re offering 40% off nearly all of our programs, books, and courses sitewide. May you find the wisdom to light your way. 

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We Dare You to Rest This Holiday Season

Karen Brody — November 20, 2017

When to say “No” & “Yes”

One of the most exhausting stress loops for women starts with saying “yes” when we feel “no”. Becoming your most authentic self is the first step to learning what a “no” and a “yes” feel like in your body. We often tell women to say no more, but equally as troublesome is that we also don’t feel and then follow our yeses.

Here’s a quick way to practice sensing what “yes” and “no” feel like to you:

  1. Put your hand on your heart and gut.
  2. Place your attention at the space between your eyebrows (your third eye).
  3. Inhale from the space between your eyebrows to the base of your spine, while mentally saying “Sooooo.” Then exhale from the base of your spine to the space between your eyebrows while mentally saying the sound, “Hummmmm.” Repeat twice more.
  4. Be still as you rest your attention on your third eye for 20 to 30 seconds.
  5. Call up a question you want an answer to, and see if you feel a “yes” or “no.”

For women who have lots of decisions to make, like mothers, I often suggest making a list of all the things stressing them out, and then, on the same day every week, doing this practice, seeing if they get a “yes” or “no” for each item on the list. This is also a great practice to do weekly when you’re pregnant, because giving birth centered in your true self, knowing your “yes” and “no,” is the best gift you can give your baby.

Using this practice to help make decisions will help you stop overdoing. You begin with feeling, drop your ego, and then, from your true nature, make decisions that end the worn-out feeling. Beware of mistaking things you love to do as a “yes.” For example, many of the creative moms I work with love to cook, but when they use this practice to ask whether they want to stay up cooking cupcakes late at night for their children’s school when they have work the next day, the answer they get might well be “no.”

Sometimes you may be faced with a difficult “no”: your inner wisdom will tell you that saying “no” to something will liberate time, but saying “no” may not feel good right away or may disappoint someone. If this happens, I encourage you to say “no” anyway. If you want to feel well-rested, you need to make the choice that supports your wholeness.

 

Love Yourself First

Most of us have heard flight attendants on an airplane say, “Put your own oxygen mask on first, and then secure your loved one’s.” This is an important message that well-rested women get in every bone of their bodies: love yourself first. The first thing your loved ones need is a healthy you. Here are two ways to do that.

 

  • Give Kindness
    • When you’re spinning in mental loops and stressed out, it’s hard to be kind to yourself or others. But as I always say after yoga nidra, I feel like I drank a cup of kindness. To capitalize on and reinforce this feeling, repeat this loving-kindness meditation.
      • Say to yourself:
        • May I be happy.
        • May I be safe.
        • May I be free of physical pain and suffering.
        • May I be able to recognize and touch harmony and joy in myself.
        • May I nourish wholesome seeds in myself.
        • May I be healthy, peaceful, and strong.

Notice how you feel in your body. When you’re ready, you can move on to saying the words for others: May (name of a loved one) be happy. May (he/she) be safe.

 

  • Go on Wonder Dates
    • Schedule quiet time for yourself. My friend and colleague Jeffrey Davis, of Tracking Wonder, a creative branding company, loves to say, “Wonder is not kid’s stuff. It’s radical grown-up stuff.” That’s right, taking time for wonder is an essential multi-vitamin for adults, too. It helps clear your mind and relax the body.
    • What’s wonder? It’s a time to be curious, to not know something. It’s the gratitude and amazement we feel when we see a shooting star or a beautiful full moon. Try finding a quiet space to read poetry, or sitting in a tree and then journaling about what you see and how it makes you feel. Many spots in nature call up wonder. Wonder sparks ideas, so the more time you spend in wonder, the juicer you will feel when you return to your everyday life.
    • And if you think you don’t have time, think again. Jeffrey has two little girls, and as he says, he “sculpts time” for wonder by intentionally planning space to wonder into his calendar.

 

Looking for more great reads?

 

 

Excerpted from Daring to Rest, by Karen Brody.

Karen Brody is a speaker and the founder of Bold Tranquility, a company offering yoga nidra meditation for the modern women via downloadable products and workshops. Her work has been featured in Better Homes & Gardens, and she’s a regular contributor to The Huffington Post. She’s also a critically acclaimed playwright. Karen had a long personal history of severe panic attacks until she found yoga nidra meditation over a decade ago. At that time, she was a sleep-deprived mother of two small children on anti-anxiety medication. She signed up for a yoga nidra meditation class simply looking to lie down for a nap. What she got was “the best nap of her life.” As she continued to practice yoga nidra regularly, her deep fatigue lifted; she wrote a critically acclaimed play, got off anti-anxiety pills, and started to teach this yoga nidra “power nap” to every exhausted mother she knew.

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Recommended Reads on Restoration

Karen Brody — November 9, 2017

Embark on the Journey to Restoration

 

Daring to Rest by Karen Brody 

What if you could reboot your health, tap into your creative self, reclaim your wild nature, lead from your heart—and still feel well rested?

As modern women, we’re taught that we can do it all, have it all, and be it all. While this freedom is beautiful, it’s also exhausting. Being a “worn-out woman” is now so common that we think feeling tired all the time is normal. According to Karen Brody, feeling this exhausted is not normal—and it’s holding us back. In Daring to Rest, Brody comes to the rescue with a 40-day program to help you reclaim rest and access your most powerful, authentic self through yoga nidra, a meditative practice that guides you into one of the deepest states of relaxation imaginable.

It’s time to lie down and begin the journey to waking up.

 

 

 

 

Sabbath by Wayne Muller

The Sacred Rhythm of the Sabbath and How to Restore It in Your Own Life

Toward the end of his life, Thomas Merton warned of a “pervasive form of contemporary violence” that is unique to our times: overwork and overactivity. In his work as a minister and caregiver, Wayne Muller has observed the effects of this violence on our communities, our families, and our people. On Sabbath, he responds to this escalating “war on our spirits,” and guides us to a sanctuary open to everyone.

Muller immerses us in the sacred tradition of the shabbat (the day of rest) a tradition, Muller says, that is all but forgotten in an age where consumption, speed, and productivity have become the most valued human commodities. Inviting us to drink from this “fountain of rest and delight,” he offers practices and exercises that reflect the sabbath as recognized in Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism. Through this way of nourishment and repose, Muller teaches, we welcome insights and blessings that arise only with stillness and time.

Rich with meditations, poems, and inspiring true stories, Sabbath asks us to remember this most simple and gracious of all spiritual practices.

 

 

iRest Meditation by Richard Miller, PhD

A Proven Meditation Program for Profound Relaxation and Healing

Deep rest and relaxation are critical elements in healing—yet we rarely experience truly profound rest. Even with proper exercise and sleep, we continue to hold stress, tension, and trauma in the body. Over the past 45 years, Dr. Richard Miller has developed a program for deep relaxation, healing, and rejuvenation called iRest (Integrative Restoration). In iRest Meditation, he offers a complete training in this proven method, which is being used by the military to treat PTSD and has been shown through research to reduce depression, anxiety, insomnia, and chronic pain—as well as improve sleep, resiliency and well-being.

Based on a modern evolution of the ancient practice of Yoga Nidra, the easy-to-learn iRest program provides a flexible toolbox of meditation practices that you can incorporate into your lifestyle to carry you through adversity. In these six audio sessions, Dr. Miller takes you step-by-step through a progressive series of guided exercises for managing stress utilizing the breath and body, decoding and balancing your emotional state, connecting you with deep inner resources that replenish your vital energy and sustain you regardless of your circumstances.

 

Recovering Joy by Kevin Griffin

Addiction recovery requires a serious commitment, yet that doesn’t mean it has to be a bleak, never-ending struggle. “Recovering takes us through many difficult steps of discipline, humility, and self-realization,” says Kevin Griffin. “In doing so, many of us forget that we are capable and deserving of basic happiness.” With Recovering Joy, Kevin Griffin fills in what is often the missing piece in addiction recovery programs: how to regain our ability to live happier lives. Whether you’re in recovery or know someone who is, this book is a resource of valuable guidance and self-reflection practices for:

  • Rediscovering a sense of purpose and our own value through our work, relationships, and contribution to the world
  • Developing personal integrity by living up to our own moral and ethical beliefs
  • Using our intelligence and creativity to their fullest extent—at work and at home
  • Cultivating a rich inner life that includes a sense of connection—whether expressed in our spirituality, our interactions with others, or our relationship to the natural world
  • Bringing an element of fun into our lives—learning to embrace our own sense of humor as a resource for healing

 

The Force of Kindness by Sharon Salzberg

Distill the great spiritual teachings from around the world down to their most basic principles, and one thread emerges to unite them all: kindness. In The Force of Kindness, Sharon Salzberg, one of the nation’s most respected Buddhist authors and meditation teachers, offers practical instruction on how we can cultivate this essential trait within ourselves.

Through her stories, teachings, and guided meditations, Sharon Salzberg takes readers on an exploration of what kindness truly means and the simple steps to realize its effects immediately. She reveals that kindness is not the sweet, naive sentiment that many of us assume it is, but rather an immensely powerful force that can transform individual lives and ripple out, changing and improving relationships, the environment, our communities, and ultimately the world. Readers will learn specific techniques for cultivating forgiveness; turning compassion into action; practicing speech that is truthful, helpful, and loving; and much more.

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Tracee Stanley: What We Need in These Threshold Times

— September 22, 2026

What if the antidote to a world coming apart isn’t a bigger plan, but a smaller, daily act of devotion?

This week, Tami Simon speaks with Tracee Stanley—teacher of yoga nidra, meditation, and self-inquiry, founder of Empowered Life Circle, and author of the new Sounds True book Living Ritual: Infuse Each Day with Purpose and Spirit—about why ritual may be the most important practice we have during what she calls threshold times.

Join Tami and Tracee to explore:

  • The threshold question at the heart of ritual: what within me is dying, and what is waiting to be born?
  • Why devotion, not discipline, is the doorway—and how to weave practice through an ordinary householder’s day without shame
  • Tracee’s shard of light in Cape Town, and the years it took to find language for it
  • The body as shrine: the origins of yoga nidra in nyasa, the ancient practice of anointing the body as a divine temple
  • Earth dreaming—lying on the land and letting the land dream through you
  • Her reframe of the four Purusharthas, turning prosperity into support and pleasure into relationship
  • Sankalpa as a vow that leads to dharma, not a manifestation wish list
  • The analog cocoon and the night school: reclaiming sleep and dream time from the phone
  • Why enlightenment may be less a permanent state than a moment available in the space between two breaths

Tracee also speaks candidly about walking away from a successful film career, and what a surgery taught her about the ego that refuses to let the body rest.

Tracee opens and closes this interview with a short guided ritual you can practice along with.

Listen now, and let something be reshaped. →

This conversation offers genuine transmission, not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together, and it originally aired on Sounds True One.

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David Whyte on Being at the Frontier of Your Identity

Amy Burtaine
Michelle Cassandra Johnson — September 15, 2026

There is a particular kind of tiredness that comes from trying to hold a fixed idea of who we are, year after year, as everything around us keeps changing anyway. David Whyte built an entire body of work around that tension, and Sounds True founder Tami Simon has called her conversation with him one of the most beloved episodes in Insights at the Edge history, still resonating with new listeners more than a decade after it first aired. Something about the way Whyte speaks, unhurried and image-rich, seems to reach people in exactly the season of life where old answers have quietly stopped working.

Sounds True has carried David Whyte’s poetry, prose, and audio programs for years because few voices manage to speak so plainly to both the individual soul and the modern workplace at once. His willingness to bring genuine poetry into rooms built for spreadsheets and quarterly targets reflects the same spirit our founder set out to preserve back in 1985: teaching captured in its own unscripted, living voice. 

What follows traces the frontier Whyte describes between who we were and who we are becoming, how exile trains us for that edge, and why a Yorkshire poet ended up teaching creativity inside boardrooms at Boeing and American Express.

Key Takeaways:

  • Originality Has an Address: Learn why David Whyte locates creativity at the frontier of identity, not behind it.
  • Exile Is a Skill: Understand why Whyte treats feeling like an outsider as something to develop, not escape.
  • Poetry Enters the Boardroom: See how poetry and leadership intersect in Whyte’s decades of corporate work.

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Originality Lives at the Edge, Not the Center

Whyte traces originality back to what he calls an edge identity, a frontier conversation that shows up across many of the world’s wisdom traditions. Reality itself, in his framing, is conversational rather than fixed, which means the self is never a finished project so much as an ongoing exchange with everything it meets. 

Sounds True’s founder has described sitting with fourteen pages of notes on his teaching and underlining nearly every line, a reaction that says something about how differently Whyte approaches familiar questions of purpose and change, treating originality as a place a person stands rather than a trait they possess. 

You can hear the full exchange in David Whyte on Being at the Frontier of Your Identity, still one of the most requested episodes in the archive.

Exile as a Core Human Competency

Rather than treating exile, the felt sense of not quite belonging, as a wound to heal, Whyte reframes it as a competency worth developing on purpose. Most people spend enormous energy trying to eliminate the feeling of being an outsider, whereas Whyte suggests the more useful move is to learn to work with it deliberately. A few ideas anchor this reframing:

  • Exile Sharpens Perception: Standing slightly outside a group often reveals what belonging obscures.
  • Competency, Not Condition: Whyte treats exile as a trainable skill rather than permanent exclusion.
  • Frontier Over Center: Growth tends to happen at edges, not in comfortable middles.

This distinction matters because it removes the shame often attached to feeling like an outsider. Instead of a problem to solve, exile becomes a vantage point worth returning to on purpose.

The Frontier of Identity as a Living Threshold

The frontier of identity, Whyte’s central image, is not a line crossed once and left behind. It is a threshold a person returns to repeatedly, every time old certainties no longer fit a new season of life. Whyte suggests that vulnerability, often treated as weakness, actually functions here as enhanced perception, a heightened sensitivity that lets a person notice what a settled identity tends to miss.

He describes reality itself as conversational, meaning the self is shaped less by fixed traits and more by an ongoing exchange with circumstances, relationships, and unexpected turns. Standing at this frontier repeatedly, rather than resolving it once, is what Whyte considers the actual work of a lived, honest life.

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Poetry and Leadership: An Unlikely Partnership

Long before this conversation, Whyte had already built a second career inside corporate life, consulting for companies including Boeing, Kodak, and American Express. His bestselling book, The Heart Aroused, argued that corporations suffered from too little poetry and too little humanity, a critique that landed him on business bestseller lists rather than only poetry shelves. This pairing of poetry and leadership runs through nearly everything Whyte has written since, treating verse not as decoration for executives but as a discipline for genuine reflection.

Whyte has predicted that the very word manager will eventually give way to something more alive with possibility, a shift he sees poetry as uniquely equipped to prepare leaders for. Rather than offering leadership frameworks or checklists, his workshops use verse to slow a room down enough to notice what usual business language tends to skip over entirely.

  • Work as Pilgrimage: Whyte frames a career less as a task list and more as a journey of identity.
  • Burnout Reconsidered: He suggests exhaustion can signal a need for renewal, not simple failure.
  • Conversational Leadership: Genuine leadership, in his view, requires ongoing dialogue, not fixed authority.

Tapping the Invisible Support That Surrounds Us

Whyte closes much of his teaching on a note of quiet reassurance: that unseen support often surrounds a person exactly when they feel most exposed at the frontier of their own becoming. Recognizing this support, rather than assuming isolation, changes how a person approaches uncertainty, whether it shows up as a career change, a creative block, or a simple shift in how someone sees themselves.

Where Poetry Meets Everyday Attention

Whyte often describes a good poem as revelatory, something that takes hold of a reader and surprises them into new understanding rather than confirming what they already believed. This distinction matters for how he teaches: poetry, in his hands, is not a retreat from ordinary life but a way of paying closer attention to it. A single well-chosen image, he suggests, can reorganize how someone relates to a problem that logic alone has failed to move.

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Final Thoughts

David Whyte’s teaching never promises a finished self waiting somewhere ahead. It offers something steadier: the frontier itself as home ground, revisited again and again across a lifetime of work and relationship. What makes this conversation endure, more than a decade after it first aired, may be exactly that refusal to offer a tidy arrival point. 

Sounds True keeps returning to this conversation because it captures exactly what our mission asks of us, waking up to the edges we usually try to avoid rather than the comfortable center we think we want.

If Whyte’s words found you today, his fuller catalog of poetry and prose is waiting to keep the conversation going, one frontier at a time.

Frequently Asked Questions About David Whyte

Who is David Whyte?

He is a Yorkshire-born poet, author, and Fortune 500 consultant known for blending poetry with leadership.

What Sounds True programs feature David Whyte?

Sounds True has released Clear Mind, Wild Heart and What to Remember When Waking with David Whyte.

Does David Whyte only write poetry?

No, he has also authored prose books, including Crossing the Unknown Sea and The Heart Aroused.

What companies has Whyte worked with as a consultant?

He has led workshops at Boeing, Kodak, American Express, and Bristol-Myers Squibb, among others.

What podcast features this conversation with Whyte?

It appears on Insights at the Edge, hosted by Sounds True founder Tami Simon.

Is this conversation relevant outside creative fields?

Yes, Whyte’s ideas on identity and leadership apply broadly across careers, relationships, and life stages.

Where can I explore more spiritual teachers like David Whyte?

Visit our All Teachers & Authors page to browse voices across many traditions and disciplines.

Does Sounds True offer related content on purpose and vocation?

Yes, related titles appear throughout our Conscious Business and Spirituality & Awakening collections.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

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Judith Orloff On How To Thrive As An Empath

Amy Burtaine
Michelle Cassandra Johnson — September 15, 2026

Have you ever walked into a room and felt someone else’s sadness settle into your own chest before a single word was spoken? Or left a gathering so depleted that you needed hours alone just to feel like yourself again? You may already know what it means to move through the world as an empath, someone who absorbs other people’s emotions as if they were your own. 

For over 40 years, we at Sounds True have been trusted stewards of spiritual education, home to the world’s largest living library of transformational teachings. Our podcast, Insights at the Edge, hosted by founder Tami Simon, has preserved real, unscripted conversations with respected spiritual teachers and healers. Here, Tami sits down with Judith Orloff, MD, a UCLA psychiatrist and leading voice on empathy, whose bestselling books have helped countless sensitive people understand themselves with more compassion.

Together, they trace the inner life of an empath, why sensitivity deserves honoring, and the grounding practices that help you stay open without losing yourself. 

Key Takeaways:

  • What You Feel Is Real: Judith Orloff explains that empaths absorb the emotions of others as their own, which means the exhaustion you feel after being around people is a real and recognizable experience, not a personal failing.
  • Sensitivity Is a Form of Medicine: Judith describes empathy as a healing force, one that benefits the person who carries it and the relationships and communities they touch. Your capacity to feel deeply is part of what makes genuine connection possible.
  • Boundaries Keep Your Gift Alive: Grounding, rest, and the willingness to say no are not indulgences for empaths. They are what allow sensitivity to remain a strength rather than a source of burnout.

What It Means To Thrive As An Empath

Judith opened her conversation with Tami by naming something many sensitive people feel but rarely have language for: the experience of being an emotional sponge. As an empath, you carry the joy and sorrow of those around you in your own body, as though the boundary between their inner world and yours has quietly dissolved. Judith described this as a real and distinct way of being, one that reaches far beyond ordinary sensitivity. 

She also drew an important distinction with Tami: there is a difference between learning empathic skills and being a natural empath, wired to take in the emotional weather of every room. For a natural empath, this isn’t an occasional technique. It’s a constant, often unfiltered channel of perception that, without understanding, can lead to exhaustion and overwhelm.

If this sounds familiar, Judith offers something valuable: permission to see your sensitivity not as a flaw, but as a legitimate way of perceiving the world.

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Empathy As Medicine: Why Sensitivity Matters For Healing

Judith sees empathy as far more than an interesting personality trait. In her conversation with Tami, she framed it as something close to medicine, a healing force with the power to touch both the individual carrying it and the relationships and communities that surround them. The path of thriving as an empath begins with recognizing just how much this capacity can offer, once it is met with the right care: 

Empathy As A Personal Healing Force

Judith spoke about empathy as something that, when honored rather than suppressed, becomes a source of genuine healing for the person who carries it. Rather than treating sensitivity as an obstacle to push through, she invited listeners to see it as a doorway back to themselves, one that asks for recognition and gentleness rather than resistance.

Empathy’s Role In Relationships

In her discussion with Tami, Judith described how empathy shapes the quality of our closest connections. When you can truly feel what another person is experiencing, relationships deepen in ways that surface-level understanding never allows. This kind of attunement, she noted, is part of what makes empaths such meaningful presences in other people’s lives.

Empathy As Medicine For Community

Judith extended this idea outward, describing empathy as a vital medicine not just for individuals but for communities as a whole. In a world that feels fractured, she suggested that empaths carry a quiet but essential role, helping to knit connection back into relationships and groups that have grown distant or strained. 

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Empath Self Care: Grounding Tools To Prevent Burnout

Knowing what it means to be an empath is only the beginning. Judith and Tami also spent real time on the practical side of this conversation, the everyday tools that help you stay steady when the world around you feels overwhelming. Sensitivity without support can tip quickly into exhaustion. With that in mind, Judith offered several grounding tools for empath self care as you move through a world that can feel loud and demanding: 

Grounding As A Daily Practice

Judith spoke about grounding as an essential, ongoing practice for empaths rather than something reserved for moments of crisis. Staying connected to your own body and breath throughout the day helps create a kind of internal steadiness, so you’re less likely to be pulled entirely into the emotional current of everyone around you.

Setting Loving Boundaries

A recurring theme in Judith’s conversation with Tami was the importance of boundaries. For empaths, saying no is not unkind. It’s an act of self-respect that protects your energy so you can show up fully for the people and situations that matter most, rather than depleting yourself for everyone who asks.

Making Self-Care Non-Negotiable

Judith was clear that self-care is foundational for empaths. Without regular time to recover and replenish, sensitivity can quickly tip into overwhelm. She encouraged listeners to treat rest and quiet as essential parts of a sustainable, thriving life, not indulgences to fit in when there’s time left over.

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Final Thoughts

What emerges most clearly from this conversation is a simple but freeing idea: your sensitivity was never something to fix. Judith Orloff’s conversation with Tami Simon offers a gentler way of understanding what it means to move through the world feeling everything so fully, and a reminder that a fuller, steadier life as an empath is possible once you learn to honor your own nervous system as carefully as you honor everyone else’s.

We invite you to spend time with the full depth of this exchange. Listen to Judith Orloff on How to Thrive as an Empath to take in the warmth and nuance that only a real, unscripted conversation can carry. Our online courses offer more ways to deepen this work alongside teachers who know this path from the inside.

Frequently Asked Questions About Judith Orloff On How To Thrive As An Empath

What is an empath, according to Judith Orloff?

Judith Orloff describes an empath as someone who doesn’t just sympathize with others’ emotions but absorbs them, often feeling them in their own body as though the feelings were their own.

How is a natural empath different from someone practicing empathy as a skill?

Judith draws a clear distinction between people learning empathic skills and natural empaths, who are wired from the start to take in the emotional atmosphere of every room, making their sensitivity a constant part of daily life.

Why do empaths get so easily drained by other people?

Because empaths absorb emotions as their own, spending time around intense feelings, whether joyful or difficult, can leave them depleted in a way that others may not experience in the same situations.

Can this kind of steadiness really be learned?

Judith’s conversation with Tami offers real encouragement here, showing that with grounding, boundaries, and consistent self-care, empaths can move from feeling overwhelmed to feeling genuinely at home in their sensitivity.

How does empathy help heal relationships and communities?

Judith describes empathy as a kind of medicine, one that deepens personal connections and helps knit communities back together, especially in a world that can often feel disconnected.

What role do boundaries play in an empath’s well-being?

Boundaries are essential, not optional. Judith emphasizes that a loving no is an act of self-respect that protects an empath’s energy so they can show up fully for what matters most.

Where can I learn more from teachers like Judith Orloff?

Our online courses offer more ways to explore this kind of work, and our Sounds True One membership connects you with a wider community learning alongside teachers just like her.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

One comment on “We Dare You to Rest This Holiday Season”

  1. Kadee says:
    March 17, 2020 at 6:31 pm

    I was so interested in reading this article but immediately felt excluded when you wrote “people that have a lot of decisions to make, like mothers”. Wow. While I am not taking anything away from the mothering experience it is also not the only space and place in life that requires making a ton of decisions. You can be single and taking care of parents, single and working 3 jobs to survive, single and the head of a multi million dollar company and required to make a ton of decisions that will cost you your representation and your career. A minority, a person with a disability….the list goes on and on. Please stop limits big decision to moms. We all are carrying our own burdens and weights even if we made CONSCIENCE decisions to not reproduce.

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