Loch Kelly: Pointers to Open-Hearted Awareness, Part 2

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October 14, 2015

Loch Kelly: Pointers to Open-Hearted Awareness, Part 2

Loch Kelly October 14, 2015

Loch Kelly is an author, psychotherapist, meditation teacher, and founder of the Open-Hearted Awareness Institute. With Sounds True, he has released the book and companion audio program Shift into Freedom: The Science and Practice of Open-Hearted Awareness. In this episode of Insights at the Edge—which comprises the second part of the conversation that began on August 18 of this year—Loch leads Tami and the audience through three “doorways” toward unhooking from the flow of thought and entering the deeper realm of “awake awareness.” They also speak on using the senses as jumping-off points to a greater intuitive knowing. Finally, Tami and Loch speak on waking up, waking in, and waking out—and how this process is important to the next steps in humanity’s evolution. (69 minutes)

Loch Kelly, MDiv, LCSW, is a teacher, consultant, and leader in the field of meditation and psychotherapy who is affiliated with Adyashanti. The founder of the Open-Hearted Awareness Institute, he is an emerging voice in modernizing meditation, social engagement, and collaborating with neuroscientists to study how awareness training can enhance compassion and well-being.

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Open-Eye Meditation (And Why You Should Be Doing It)

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It can be helpful to begin with some retraining of the relationship between our eyes, our small mind, and our small self. We can begin to return our eyes to their natural condition and have the information move to awake awareness.

According to the American Foundation for the Blind, “vision is the product of a complex system of which the eyes are only one part. The processing of visual information—the receipt of visual stimuli through the eyes, its interpretation by various brain centers, and its translation into visual images—has been estimated to involve as much as 40 percent of the brain.”

When our eyes are darting around or scanning for a specific threat, we are on alert. Sometimes our attempts to focus ourselves by narrowing our eyes and concentrating can keep our brain in a fixed, task-positive mode. Our goal in practicing effortless mindfulness is to be able to shift to another operating system, the end point of which is open-hearted awareness, in which all our senses and systems—including vision—are functioning in their natural state: open, relaxed, clear, and integrated. To do this, we need to learn how to shift our awareness and live with our eyes open.

Here are some helpful hints for sustaining an open gaze while shifting awareness. You don’t necessarily need to experience all of them as I describe them. Use any of the following hints that work for you:

  • Relax your eyes and soften your gaze so that your eyesight is not dominant and all your senses are experienced equally.
  • Instead of looking through a narrow tunnel of vision or in a pinpointed way at one object, see the forest as well as one tree. Put your pointer fingers together up above your head in front of you and then part them to either side, drawing a big circle in front of your body. Let your gaze open to include the entire circular area all at once so that you are seeing in a more open way.
  • Rather than looking at one object, create a diffused view like a soft lens of a camera by looking to the wider scene of what’s in front of you.
  • Extend one hand in front of you with your palm facing you at the distance you would be looking at a friend’s face. Look at your hand and the space around it. Now drop your hand and look at the open space. If your eyes habitually focus on the first object you see, repeat the previous steps until you get a feel for resting your eyes on objectless space.
  • Notice that your eyes do not operate like your hands. You do not go out to see something as your hands go out to pick something up. Your eyes work in a similar way as your ears. Just as your ears are receiving sound, light is reflecting off objects and coming into your eyes. What does it feel like when seeing is receiving?
  • Rest back as the light comes to your eyes and then goes to open-hearted awareness while all your senses are open. Feel like you are equally aware of all your senses rather than focusing on seeing or thinking as primary.
  • Feel like you are receiving light as you soften your eyes while having a wide-open view of the periphery.

This is an excerpt from The Way of Effortless Mindfulness: A Revolutionary Guide for Living an Awakened Life by Loch Kelly.

Loch Kelly HeadshotWay of Effortless Loch KellyLoch Kelly, MDiv, LCSW, is a leader in the field of meditation and psychotherapy. He is author of the award-winning Shift into Freedom and founder of the Open-Hearted Awareness Institute. Loch is an emerging voice in modernizing meditation, social engagement, and collaborating with neuroscientists. For more, visit lochkelly.org.

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Effortless Mindfulness for Pain Relief

Effortless Mindfulness For Pain ReliefWhat Is Pain?

Pain is a normal part of human life. And pain hurts. Although pain feels like a threat, pain is not attacking us. Pain is designed to help us survive. Pain and pleasure are signals. Pain is a signal that something is out of balance in your emotional, mental, spiritual, or physical life and that something needs attention. It is meant to be unpleasant, for a good reason: to bring our attention to a potentially dangerous situation until the issue is treated. The sharp, unpleasant signal is designed that way to make sure we drop everything else and attend to the situation immediately. When pain continues unabated after our best healthy efforts to tend to it in a physical way, we look for ways of stopping it, reducing it, or escaping it in any way we can.

For example, if you’re walking barefoot, thoroughly engaged in a conversation with a friend, and you step on a piece of wood and get a splinter, the strong unpleasant pain signal is meant to get you to immediately stop all other interests and attend to the wound. If you had a sharp piece of wood in your foot and it didn’t cause pain, you might not bother to take it out, resulting in infection or worse. Once you take care of the immediate problem, or source, the nature of pain is to eventually go away. Pain by itself is not an entity or an enemy that has any motivation of hurting you. It is an important survival mechanism of our body—a communication tool.

By way of our senses, we have contact with experience in and outside of our body that tends to feel either pleasant, unpleasant, or neutral. We tend to like pleasant sensations, which leads to craving what we like and trying to get more pleasure, and we tend to dislike unpleasant sensations, which leads to rejecting what we don’t like. When that strong craving or rejection happens, there is a contraction of our greater sense of self into a specific identity of “craver” or “rejecter”: we configure our consciousness into a “me” that is a “thinker” or “manager” that has a strategy to get its goals and desires met, and believes that that strategy is real and right. Craving and rejection are a normal part of our physical survival, like craving food when we’re hungry, but they also become our primary source of suffering when they become our identity.

Rather than reacting to the pain, we must treat the underlying condition that is causing pain in order for it to subside. It is important to first check out the cause of the pain in every way possible so as not to ignore, overlook, or deny a potentially dangerous condition. In some types of chronic pain that we know the cause of, like arthritis or sciatica, the nerve signal system is alerting us of an issue, but there’s no splinter to be removed from our back or foot. If we’ve attended to all the medical and alternative diagnoses and treatments, and the pain still persists, we still have the opportunity to learn some approaches using our own consciousness to relate to pain differently. Effortless mindfulness is a wonderful approach that does not in any way attempt to replace or deny diagnosing the cause of pain and working to cure it through any and all means. I am simply sharing this practice as a suggestion of what can be done in conjunction with any medical treatment.

With effortless mindfulness, we can learn to become present with the unpleasant—an important skill that we often avoid learning until we experience inescapable pain. We may already have experienced, through effortless mindfulness, how chattering thoughts recede into background awareness or can be met by open-hearted awareness. The great news is that we can do this with pain signals as well! They can become like thoughts and go into the background of awake awareness. When the pain signals recede to the background or significantly lessen, we no longer have to suffer silently or try to escape the pain through behaviors of shutting down, numbing, addiction, or acting out. By changing how we relate to pain, we can find a doorway to a freedom that allows us to respond to pain from courage and intimacy. We can learn to be present with the unpleasant, remain sensitive without being defensive, and be responsive but not reactive. When the intelligence of awake awareness knows directly that there is no immediate danger, the pain signal can go into the background.

In this video below, join me as I guide you through this practice of using effortless mindfulness to help you be present and work with your pain for lasting relief.

This is an excerpt from The Way of Effortless Mindfulness: A Revolutionary Guide for Living an Awakened Life by Loch Kelly.

Loch Kelly HeadshotWay of Effortless Loch KellyLoch Kelly, MDiv, LCSW, is a leader in the field of meditation and psychotherapy. He is author of the award-winning Shift into Freedom and founder of the Open-Hearted Awareness Institute. Loch is an emerging voice in modernizing meditation, social engagement, and collaborating with neuroscientists. For more, visit lochkelly.org.

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Effortless Mindfulness: A Universal Practice for Every...

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My introduction to the immediate effects of effortless mindfulness in Nepal allowed me to see that I did not need to remain in the East, join a monastery, or practice in a cave to discover the well-being, clarity, and open-hearted awareness that were already within me. I returned to the United States to continue to train with eyes open in the midst of my day-to-day life.

I have no doubt, as I look back now, that it was the natural compassion of open-hearted awareness revealed by effortless mindfulness that propelled me to pursue a second master’s degree in clinical social work. As I felt a deeper connection to everyone, I wanted to train for a life of service to those most in need. I also got sober, went to weekly psychotherapy, continued psychotherapist training, and got married to the love of my life, Paige. At this time, I was also asked to join the Teachers Council of the New York Insight Meditation Center, where I taught deliberate mindfulness practices. I continued to attend teachings and retreats to develop and deepen my practices and studies with a variety of nondual and effortless mindfulness teachers.

Right after graduate school, I went to work in New York City at the Brooklyn Mental Health Clinic. This was an outpatient community center that provided psychotherapy for people who had been psychiatrically hospitalized or were living in a halfway house and attending a psychiatric day-treatment program. It was during breaks or when clients missed sessions that I began exploring and developing the mindful glimpses found in my book, The Way of Effortless Mindfulness, that are versions of the ancient wisdom practices I learned during my travels.

As I gazed out the window into the open sky from my seventeenth-floor office, I began to explore my own mind to see how suffering was created and relieved. I noticed how identification with a thought, feeling, and parts of my personality collapsed my thinking into a narrow perception of both myself and others. I practiced shifting my awareness from a contracted small self to a new way of seeing and being, which was more open-minded and open-hearted. I also noticed how, when I intentionally separated awareness from thinking, I could awaken to an already spacious and interconnected view that was free of a deep kind of suffering.

For example, if I was feeling upset, I would acknowledge my feelings and shift awareness out of the cloud of stormy emotions and then, from this open mind and open heart, return to the emotions with a new view. This brought such relief and joy! It was like emerging from a dark tunnel to a beautiful view, except I was not only seeing the view. It was as if I were viewing from an open, quiet, loving intelligence that was connected to everything. How could this freedom be so close and yet so hidden from most people’s day-to-day experience? How was it that despite all the progress humanity has made in other areas—like medicine, communication, and technology—that shifting into awake awareness was not something that was recognized and taught to everyone?

I approached these explorations of the anatomy of awareness with curiosity and wonder. It was exciting to experiment and reverse-engineer practices from the wisdom traditions I had studied in India, Sri Lanka, and Nepal. One of the approaches to awakening that I draw from, Sutra Mahamudra, originated in North India. It is a tradition that is like a bridge between the three main traditions of Buddhism: Theravada, Mahayana, and Vajrayana (Tibetan). One reason I was drawn to it is that it focuses on practices for everyday people, not just monastics, to awaken in the midst of their daily life. One of my teachers, Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche, wrote that Sutra Mahamudra “is seen as a profound method because it does not require any of the sophisticated and complex tantric rituals, deity yoga visualization practices, or samayas [vows]. Sutra Mahamudra has a tradition of skillful means that contains profound methods of directly pointing out the selfless and luminous nature of mind.” I began to try to translate ancient practices I had learned from many teachers and texts into accessible, contemporary language and forms. I checked in with teachers such as Traleg Rinpoche to make sure the practices were staying true to the essence of the teachings as I translated them. I also began to notice that if I remained receptive, it was as if awake awareness started showing me the anatomy and principles of awakening. I started calling these contemporary versions of ancient wisdom practices “Brooklyn Mahamudra.”

This is an excerpt from The Way of Effortless Mindfulness: A Revolutionary Guide for Living an Awakened Life by Loch Kelly.

Loch Kelly HeadshotWay of Effortless Loch KellyLoch Kelly, MDiv, LCSW, is a leader in the field of meditation and psychotherapy. He is author of the award-winning Shift into Freedom and founder of the Open-Hearted Awareness Institute. Loch is an emerging voice in modernizing meditation, social engagement, and collaborating with neuroscientists. For more, visit lochkelly.org.

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Finding Freedom Behind Bars: Spiritual Awakening in Pr...

Prison is often defined by restriction, routine, and loss of control, yet within these confines, many people encounter an unexpected invitation to turn inward. Through meditation and mindfulness, incarceration can become a setting for deep self-examination, where thoughts, emotions, and long-held patterns are met with honesty rather than avoidance.

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Let’s examine prison meditation and spiritual awakening behind bars, looking at how mindfulness, responsibility, and sustained practice support inner freedom and shared humanity, even in confinement.

Key Takeaways:

  • Freedom Is An Inside Job: Even behind bars, awareness and radical responsibility open a doorway to inner freedom that no external circumstance can close.
  • Awakening Happens One Breath at a Time: Spiritual awakening in prison grows through small, steady moments of honest attention, not one dramatic turning point.
  • Beneath Every Label, We Share the Same Humanity: Mindfulness in prison cultivates empathy, accountability, and real human connection across the divides of separation and restriction.

Prison Meditation and the Inner Work of Freedom Behind Bars

Prison meditation shifts attention from external conditions to inner experience. When freedom of movement is removed, the mind becomes the primary place where suffering and relief are encountered. Meditation offers a way to meet that reality directly, without distraction or avoidance.

Incarceration often intensifies habitual thought patterns like fear, anger, and regret. Sitting in meditation allows these patterns to be observed rather than acted out. Over time, this creates space between impulse and response, a form of inner freedom that practitioners carry with them long after a session ends.

Though it’s important to note that this practice does not deny the hardship of prison life. Instead, it supports a steady relationship with what is present. Through consistent attention to breath, sensation, and thought, meditation becomes a training in clarity and self-honesty.

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Spiritual awakening in prison rarely arrives as a lightning bolt. Far more often, this awakening unfolds through repeated contact with what is present, day after day, under conditions that leave little room for looking away.

Meeting Reality Without Escape

Awakening in confinement begins with facing reality as it is, like the absence of familiar outlets brings thoughts and emotions into sharper focus. Meditation encourages staying with discomfort, restlessness, and fear rather than trying to fix or suppress them. This willingness to remain present often reveals that suffering is amplified by resistance far more than by circumstance alone.

Awakening Through Responsibility and Attention

As awareness stabilizes, responsibility naturally comes into view. Practitioners begin to notice how reactions, beliefs, and internal narratives shape their experience. This insight is not about self-blame. It reflects a growing capacity to take responsibility for one’s inner life. Living from a Place of Surrender speaks directly to this shift — the turning away from resistance and toward honest, open-hearted presence — showing how sustained attention can become a foundation for meaningful inner change.

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Fleet Maull’s work in prison meditation emerges from lived experience rather than theory. His teaching reflects what it means to turn toward inner life under extreme conditions and to use practice as a means of genuine transformation.

From Incarceration to Practice

Fleet Maull began meditating while serving a long prison sentence, encountering the practice not as self-improvement but as survival. In an environment shaped by control and unpredictability, meditation became a way to establish inner stability. Sitting with the breath offered a rare opportunity to observe the mind without being driven by it. That steady attention laid the groundwork for insight, discipline, and emotional regulation.

Responsibility as the Turning Point

A defining element of Maull’s teaching is the role of responsibility in awakening. Rather than framing prison solely as injustice or punishment, he emphasizes accountability for one’s internal responses. This perspective aligns with teachings like Living from a Place of Surrender, which invites practitioners to release the grip of control and meet life as it arrives — an especially resonant practice when external freedom is constrained. Through this lens, prison meditation becomes a path toward reclaiming agency, even when external freedom is limited.

Mindfulness in Prison: Learning to Stay Present When Pressure Is Constant

Mindfulness in prison is shaped by intensity. Noise, surveillance, and lack of privacy place constant demands on attention. In that environment, mindfulness is not about relaxation. Learning how to remain present when pressure is unavoidable becomes the true test.

Working with Stress and Reactivity

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  • Seeing patterns clearly: Meditation reveals habitual reactions such as anger, withdrawal, or blame as they arise. This visibility makes it possible to interrupt patterns rather than reinforce them.
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  • Practicing consistency in constrained conditions: Regular meditation builds discipline and trust in the practice itself. Over time, responsibility becomes less about effort and more about alignment with one’s values.
  • Reclaiming agency from the inside: Each mindful choice reinforces the understanding that inner agency remains available, even when external freedom is limited.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Finding Freedom Behind Bars: Spiritual Awakening in Prison

What is prison meditation?

Prison meditation refers to contemplative practices adapted for incarcerated settings, often focused on breath awareness, body awareness, and observing thoughts to build stability and insight. These practices are intentionally simple and accessible, meeting people exactly where they are.

Can meditation be practiced safely in prison environments?

Yes. Many programs adapt meditation to fit safety requirements, emphasizing seated or standing practices that require minimal space and no special equipment. These adaptations make meditation genuinely accessible across a wide range of prison settings and populations.

Is spiritual awakening in prison tied to a specific religion?

No. Spiritual awakening in prison is often nonsectarian, centered on awareness, responsibility, and ethical reflection rather than belief systems or doctrine. This openness makes the practice welcoming to people from all backgrounds and traditions.

Why does meditation resonate so strongly with incarcerated individuals?

Meditation offers tools for working with intense emotions, long periods of inactivity, and lack of control, which are common features of incarceration. Many practitioners find that consistent practice gives them a renewed sense of agency and inner steadiness they did not know was possible.

How long does it take to see benefits from prison meditation?

Experiences vary. Some notice small shifts in emotional regulation early on, while deeper changes develop through consistent, long-term practice. Patience and repetition tend to be the most reliable guides on this path.

Do people continue meditating after release from prison?

Yes, many do. Practices learned in confinement often translate naturally to daily life because they rely on attention rather than ideal conditions. The simplicity of the practice tends to carry well across very different environments and circumstances.

Can prison meditation support rehabilitation efforts?

Meditation can complement rehabilitation by strengthening self-awareness, impulse control, and the ability to reflect before acting. Many practitioners find that it becomes one of the most grounding tools in their long-term growth.

Who teaches prison meditation programs?

Programs are often led by trained meditation teachers, former practitioners who were incarcerated themselves, or volunteers affiliated with mindfulness organizations. This diversity of instructors helps keep teachings grounded, relatable, and deeply human.

Is prison meditation appropriate for people new to mindfulness?

Yes. Many incarcerated practitioners begin with no prior experience, using simple, accessible techniques designed for beginners. The practice is built to meet people at the very start of their journey.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

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