What Are Nocturnal Meditations?

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April 2, 2019

Many people know about meditating during the day, but few are aware of the “nocturnal meditations.” They’ve been around for thousands of years, tucked away under the blanket of darkness. Until recently, the nocturnal practices have been secret, deemed too subtle for the West. But with the mindfulness revolution in full swing and meditation now in the public domain, these “dark” practices are finally coming to light in the modern world. What surprises most people is how deep and vast these nocturnal meditations are—and how applicable to daily life.

The practices start with lucid dreaming, which is when you wake up to the fact that you’re dreaming while still remaining in the dream. Once it was scientifically proven in 1975, lucid dreaming has gained traction in the West. Initially, lucid dreaming isn’t much of a meditation. Most people use it to indulge their fantasies—to fulfill their wildest dreams in the privacy of their own mind. At this entry level, lucid dreaming is the ultimate in home entertainment, where you become the writer, producer, director, and main actor in an Academy Award-winning production of your own mind.

But the higher levels of lucid dreaming have extraordinary psychological and even physical benefits. You can transform nightmares, rehearse things, resolve interpersonal issues, even improve athletic performance. Neuroscience has shown that you can use your mind to change your brain (neuroplasticity), and modern dream research continues to show that you can use your dreaming mind to enhance a host of daily psychological and physical activities. Lucid dreaming at this higher level is like going to night school.

With some proficiency in lucid dreaming you can progress into dream yoga, which is when dreams are used for spiritual transformation. While lucid dreaming is largely about self-fulfillment, dream yoga is all about self-transcendence. It’s been around for thousands of years, and the Buddha (the “awakened one”) was really the ultimate lucid dreamer.

Dream yoga, like lucid dreaming, progresses from beginning to advanced stages. A beginning yogi starts by addressing the question, “What are dreams made of?” They’re made of your mind. So, by working with your dreams at this refined level, you’re working to transform your mind. One early stage of dream yoga involves transforming the objects in your dreams, like changing a dream flower to a dream chair. In so doing, one discovers the malleable nature of mind and the truth of the saying, “Blessed are the flexible, for they are never bent out of shape.” This is the “yoga” or “stretching” part of dream yoga, which develops increased pliability of mind.

One amazing quality of both lucid dreaming and dream yoga is that the benefits of what you do in your dreams don’t stay tucked into the nighttime mind. By changing a flower into a chair in your dreams (not as easy as it sounds!), you realize you can change anger into compassion in your life. In other words, your emotional states are not as solid as you think. They’re essentially as solid as a dream, and therefore as workable.

At higher levels of dream yoga, you use the “example dream” or “double delusion” of the nighttime dream to wake you up from the “real dream” or “primary delusion” of daily life—which is precisely what the Buddha did. You eventually come to the shattering conclusion that this is a dream. When seen properly—when you’re lucid to it—your waking reality is no more concrete than a dream. So a dream yogi lives by the maxim, “This is a dream; I am free; I can change.” It’s a liberating wake-up call, with profound implications for all of life.

For most people, lucid dreaming and dream yoga are enough. But for those wanting to go to “graduate school,” one can advance into sleep yoga (related to yoga nidra in Hinduism). As incredible as it may sound, this is when you learn how to become lucid in deep, dreamless sleep. In Buddhism this is called “luminosity yoga” and adheres to the teaching that fundamentally there is no darkness within—only light unseen. Sleep yoga turns on this nightlight, a luminosity so radiant that it eventually illuminates even the day. Scientists are currently trying to prove this outrageous claim with advanced meditators and dream yogis.

“Lucidity” is a code word for awareness. So, by working with any of these three practices, you’re working to cultivate greater awareness. And what doesn’t benefit with more awareness? All three of these practices engage the principle of bi-directionality, which is all about opening a two-way street between the daytime and nighttime mind. What we do during the day affects how we sleep and dream; and what we do when we sleep and dream affects how we live during the day. By becoming lucid to our dreams and to dreamless sleep, we’re secretly becoming more lucid or aware of our daily lives. So lucid dreaming leads to lucid living.

As fruitful as these three practices are, there is one final step for those wanting to take the deepest dive. With some proficiency in sleep yoga, one can advance into bardo yoga (“gap” yoga), which is when the darkness of sleep is used to prepare for the darkness of death. In Greek mythology, Thanatos (the god of death) and Hypnos (the god of sleep) aren’t just brothers—they’re twins. Death and sleep are intimately related. In Buddhism, death is referred to as “the dream at the end of time.” So bardo yoga, which is a Tibetan contribution, engages the tenet that dreamless means formless, and formless means deathless. Bardo yoga therefore introduces you to your formless/deathless nature—to who you really are. It points out the deepest part of you that doesn’t get old, sick, or die. Bardo yoga is a “dead end” practice that points out eternal life.

We spend a third of our lives in sleep. If you live to be 90, you’ve slept for 30 years. Imagine what you could do if you had even a fraction of that time. We spend 25% of our sleep time in dreams, which adds up to about a month a year. Think of what you could do if you added a month to each year! That’s real “overtime.”

The nocturnal meditations are cutting-edge practices. Neuroscientist Matthew Walker writes, “It is possible that lucid dreamers represent the next iteration in Homo sapiens’ evolution.” How evolutionary does that make lucid sleepers, let alone lucid “die-ers”? Do you want to be the first one on your block to take the lead in evolution? Then open your eyes to the dark, engage the nocturnal meditations, and discover the leading light within.

Andrew Holecek, What are Nocturnal Meditations
Andrew Holecek

Andrew Holecek is the author of Dream Yoga: Illuminating Your Life Through Lucid Dreaming and the Tibetan Yogas of Sleep. He is also the founder of Night Club, an online platform that explores the nocturnal meditations and the science that supports them. Learn more about Night Club!

Andrew Holecek

Andrew Holecek is a renowned author and humanitarian who teaches internationally on spirituality, meditation, lucid dreaming, and the art of dying. He has studied sleep yoga, bardo yoga, and other traditional practices with living masters in India and Nepal. Andrew’s books include Dreams of Light, Dream Yoga, and Reverse Meditation. His work has appeared in Psychology Today, Parabola, Lion’s Roar, Tricycle, Utne Reader, Buddhadharma, Light of Consciousness, and many other periodicals. He hosts the popular Edge of Mind podcast and is the founder of the Night Club community, a support platform for nocturnal meditations. Learn more at andrewholecek.com.

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Andrew Holecek: Stop, Drop, and Be Held in the Dark


What if the most transformative place you could go isn’t a retreat center or a therapist’s office—but complete and total darkness?

This week, Tami Simon speaks with Andrew Holecek—interdisciplinary scholar, longtime practitioner of Tibetan Buddhism, and author of the new Sounds True book Total Eclipse of the Mind: Unleashing the Power of Darkness for Creativity, Healing, and Transformation—about the practice of dark retreat: full immersion in sealed, lightless environments used by yogis for centuries to accelerate inner transformation.

Holecek calls it the single most transformative practice of his fifty years of meditation, psychedelic exploration, and three-year Tibetan retreat—and in this interview, he explains why.

Join Tami and Andrew to explore:

  • What actually happens to the mind in extended darkness—and the neurological science behind why it’s so transformative
  • The descent of the mind through conscious, subconscious, and collective unconscious layers—and what waits at the bottom
  • Dark retreat as a “sober psychedelic”: how the brain generates its own endogenous DMT in extended darkness
  • The practice of enantiodromia—when extreme contraction suddenly flips into extraordinary openness
  • How to work with panic, trauma, and unwanted experience using the “reverse meditation” principle: feel it, but don’t feed it
  • Why appearances don’t matter in the dark—and why so many people emerge in tears, feeling safe and held for the first time
  • The four-step process for integrating darkness into daily life, from sleep masks to dedicated dark rooms

This interview was recorded with both Tami and Andrew wearing blackout masks—making it one of the most immersive listening experiences in Insights at the Edge history.

Listen now and discover what’s been waiting in the dark. →

This conversation offers genuine transmission—not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together. Originally aired on Sounds True One.

This episode is sponsored by Omega Institute, a global gathering hub for lifelong learning and spiritual exploration. Located in upstate New York’s beautiful Hudson Valley, Omega offers weekend workshops, special events, rest and rejuvenation retreats, professional trainings, online learning, and more. Discover what calls to you at eomega.org/true.

Andrew Holecek: What Reincarnates? | Part 2

Join Tami Simon and Andrew Holecek for the second half of their exploration of reincarnation. Here, they delve deeper into Tibetan Buddhist perspectives on death, rebirth, and the power of “dark retreat” practice, revealing practical guidance for navigating everyday life.

What happens after we die? And what do habits have to do with the process? In this episode of Insights at the Edge, host Tami Simon welcomes Andrew Holecek, scholar, author, and teacher of Tibetan Buddhism and non-dual wisdom traditions. Together, they dive into the mysteries of reincarnation and the “gap between lives.” Drawing from Tibetan teachings on the bardos, dream yoga, and the art of dying, Andrew shares practical insights on how these ancient teachings are not just about what happens after death, but also about navigating the transitions and challenges we face here and now. 

Join them to explore: 

  • How our beliefs about death deeply inform how we live
  • The nature of awareness and the influence of habits
  • How cultivating lucidity transforms both our dreams and our waking lives, and more

Note: These interviews originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

Andrew Holecek: What Reincarnates? | Part 1

What happens after we die? And what do habits have to do with the process?

In this episode of Insights at the Edge, host Tami Simon welcomes Andrew Holecek, scholar, author, and teacher of Tibetan Buddhism and non-dual wisdom traditions. Together, they dive into the mysteries of reincarnation and the “gap between lives.” Drawing from Tibetan teachings on the bardos, dream yoga, and the art of dying, Andrew shares practical insights on how these ancient teachings are not just about what happens after death, but also about navigating the transitions and challenges we face here and now. 

Join them to explore: 

  • How our beliefs about death deeply inform how we live
  • The nature of awareness and the influence of habits
  • How cultivating lucidity transforms both our dreams and our waking lives

Whether you’re curious about what happens after we die or seeking wisdom to live more fully, this episode offers insights for inner explorers of all beliefs and backgrounds.

Note: This interview originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

 

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Tracee also speaks candidly about walking away from a successful film career, and what a surgery taught her about the ego that refuses to let the body rest.

Tracee opens and closes this interview with a short guided ritual you can practice along with.

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Judith Orloff On How To Thrive As An Empath

Have you ever walked into a room and felt someone else’s sadness settle into your own chest before a single word was spoken? Or left a gathering so depleted that you needed hours alone just to feel like yourself again? You may already know what it means to move through the world as an empath, someone who absorbs other people’s emotions as if they were your own. 

For over 40 years, we at Sounds True have been trusted stewards of spiritual education, home to the world’s largest living library of transformational teachings. Our podcast, Insights at the Edge, hosted by founder Tami Simon, has preserved real, unscripted conversations with respected spiritual teachers and healers. Here, Tami sits down with Judith Orloff, MD, a UCLA psychiatrist and leading voice on empathy, whose bestselling books have helped countless sensitive people understand themselves with more compassion.

Together, they trace the inner life of an empath, why sensitivity deserves honoring, and the grounding practices that help you stay open without losing yourself. 

Key Takeaways:

  • What You Feel Is Real: Judith Orloff explains that empaths absorb the emotions of others as their own, which means the exhaustion you feel after being around people is a real and recognizable experience, not a personal failing.
  • Sensitivity Is a Form of Medicine: Judith describes empathy as a healing force, one that benefits the person who carries it and the relationships and communities they touch. Your capacity to feel deeply is part of what makes genuine connection possible.
  • Boundaries Keep Your Gift Alive: Grounding, rest, and the willingness to say no are not indulgences for empaths. They are what allow sensitivity to remain a strength rather than a source of burnout.

What It Means To Thrive As An Empath

Judith opened her conversation with Tami by naming something many sensitive people feel but rarely have language for: the experience of being an emotional sponge. As an empath, you carry the joy and sorrow of those around you in your own body, as though the boundary between their inner world and yours has quietly dissolved. Judith described this as a real and distinct way of being, one that reaches far beyond ordinary sensitivity. 

She also drew an important distinction with Tami: there is a difference between learning empathic skills and being a natural empath, wired to take in the emotional weather of every room. For a natural empath, this isn’t an occasional technique. It’s a constant, often unfiltered channel of perception that, without understanding, can lead to exhaustion and overwhelm.

If this sounds familiar, Judith offers something valuable: permission to see your sensitivity not as a flaw, but as a legitimate way of perceiving the world.

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Empathy As Medicine: Why Sensitivity Matters For Healing

Judith sees empathy as far more than an interesting personality trait. In her conversation with Tami, she framed it as something close to medicine, a healing force with the power to touch both the individual carrying it and the relationships and communities that surround them. The path of thriving as an empath begins with recognizing just how much this capacity can offer, once it is met with the right care: 

Empathy As A Personal Healing Force

Judith spoke about empathy as something that, when honored rather than suppressed, becomes a source of genuine healing for the person who carries it. Rather than treating sensitivity as an obstacle to push through, she invited listeners to see it as a doorway back to themselves, one that asks for recognition and gentleness rather than resistance.

Empathy’s Role In Relationships

In her discussion with Tami, Judith described how empathy shapes the quality of our closest connections. When you can truly feel what another person is experiencing, relationships deepen in ways that surface-level understanding never allows. This kind of attunement, she noted, is part of what makes empaths such meaningful presences in other people’s lives.

Empathy As Medicine For Community

Judith extended this idea outward, describing empathy as a vital medicine not just for individuals but for communities as a whole. In a world that feels fractured, she suggested that empaths carry a quiet but essential role, helping to knit connection back into relationships and groups that have grown distant or strained. 

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Empath Self Care: Grounding Tools To Prevent Burnout

Knowing what it means to be an empath is only the beginning. Judith and Tami also spent real time on the practical side of this conversation, the everyday tools that help you stay steady when the world around you feels overwhelming. Sensitivity without support can tip quickly into exhaustion. With that in mind, Judith offered several grounding tools for empath self care as you move through a world that can feel loud and demanding: 

Grounding As A Daily Practice

Judith spoke about grounding as an essential, ongoing practice for empaths rather than something reserved for moments of crisis. Staying connected to your own body and breath throughout the day helps create a kind of internal steadiness, so you’re less likely to be pulled entirely into the emotional current of everyone around you.

Setting Loving Boundaries

A recurring theme in Judith’s conversation with Tami was the importance of boundaries. For empaths, saying no is not unkind. It’s an act of self-respect that protects your energy so you can show up fully for the people and situations that matter most, rather than depleting yourself for everyone who asks.

Making Self-Care Non-Negotiable

Judith was clear that self-care is foundational for empaths. Without regular time to recover and replenish, sensitivity can quickly tip into overwhelm. She encouraged listeners to treat rest and quiet as essential parts of a sustainable, thriving life, not indulgences to fit in when there’s time left over.

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Final Thoughts

What emerges most clearly from this conversation is a simple but freeing idea: your sensitivity was never something to fix. Judith Orloff’s conversation with Tami Simon offers a gentler way of understanding what it means to move through the world feeling everything so fully, and a reminder that a fuller, steadier life as an empath is possible once you learn to honor your own nervous system as carefully as you honor everyone else’s.

We invite you to spend time with the full depth of this exchange. Listen to Judith Orloff on How to Thrive as an Empath to take in the warmth and nuance that only a real, unscripted conversation can carry. Our online courses offer more ways to deepen this work alongside teachers who know this path from the inside.

Frequently Asked Questions About Judith Orloff On How To Thrive As An Empath

What is an empath, according to Judith Orloff?

Judith Orloff describes an empath as someone who doesn’t just sympathize with others’ emotions but absorbs them, often feeling them in their own body as though the feelings were their own.

How is a natural empath different from someone practicing empathy as a skill?

Judith draws a clear distinction between people learning empathic skills and natural empaths, who are wired from the start to take in the emotional atmosphere of every room, making their sensitivity a constant part of daily life.

Why do empaths get so easily drained by other people?

Because empaths absorb emotions as their own, spending time around intense feelings, whether joyful or difficult, can leave them depleted in a way that others may not experience in the same situations.

Can this kind of steadiness really be learned?

Judith’s conversation with Tami offers real encouragement here, showing that with grounding, boundaries, and consistent self-care, empaths can move from feeling overwhelmed to feeling genuinely at home in their sensitivity.

How does empathy help heal relationships and communities?

Judith describes empathy as a kind of medicine, one that deepens personal connections and helps knit communities back together, especially in a world that can often feel disconnected.

What role do boundaries play in an empath’s well-being?

Boundaries are essential, not optional. Judith emphasizes that a loving no is an act of self-respect that protects an empath’s energy so they can show up fully for what matters most.

Where can I learn more from teachers like Judith Orloff?

Our online courses offer more ways to explore this kind of work, and our Sounds True One membership connects you with a wider community learning alongside teachers just like her.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

Andrea Gibson on Facing Mortality and Being Adored by ...

Andrea Gibson did not write about mortality from a safe distance. Colorado’s 2023–25 Poet Laureate spoke with Sounds True founder Tami Simon while living with cancer, and Sounds True later shared the conversation again as an encore after Gibson’s passing.

Great poets tend to expand our view of ourselves, of each other, and of the wider universe we share, and Sounds True has spent four decades making room for voices willing to speak this honestly. 

In this piece, we look at what Gibson taught about softening rather than pushing, what poetry offered as a container for grief, and what it looked like to keep showing up for a cause while loosening one’s grip on the outcome.

Key Takeaways:

  • Softness Over Force: Learn why Andrea Gibson chose trying softer instead of harder while living with cancer.
  • Poetry Holds Grief: Understand how Gibson used verse to witness sorrow rather than resolve it.
  • Activism Without Grip: See how Gibson stayed committed to causes while loosening control over outcomes.

A Conversation Recorded From Inside the Fire

What emerged was not wisdom delivered from a place of having already arrived, but a real-time account of learning to love a life that was actively slipping away, told with a rare mix of humor, ache, and clarity.

Hear the full conversation in Andrea Gibson on Facing Mortality and Being Adored by the Universe, recorded as part of our Insights at the Edge series.

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Trying Softer, Not Harder

A phrase that anchors much of this conversation, trying softer instead of harder, captures something Gibson circled back to again and again. Illness stripped away the option of pushing through discomfort the way Gibson once might have. What replaced it was a different relationship to effort itself, one built on relaxation rather than force, and one that felt genuinely earned rather than borrowed from a wellness slogan.

  • Relaxation as Skill: Gibson treated softening as a practice, not a passive default.
  • Effort Redefined: Trying softer did not mean giving up, only releasing unnecessary tension.
  • Presence Over Push: Staying with what is real mattered more than forcing outcomes.

Poetry and Grief as the Same Practice

For Gibson, poetry and grief were never separate disciplines. Writing became the place where sorrow could be witnessed rather than managed, and the poem “Acceptance Speech After Setting the World Record in Goosebumps,” read aloud during the episode, shows this directly. Rather than resolving grief into something tidy, Gibson’s poems tend to sit within it, finding unexpected tenderness there instead of rushing toward comfort or closure, a quality that has resonated with readers facing their own losses.

This approach offers something rare: permission to let a poem remain unresolved, because life itself often remains unresolved. Gibson never treated grief as a problem waiting for a solution, but as a companion worth genuinely listening to.

Being Adored by the Universe

The episode’s title borrows Gibson’s own language for a shift in perception that arrived alongside the diagnosis: a felt sense of being cherished by existence itself, not despite the illness but somehow through it. This was not framed as denial or spiritual bypassing. Gibson spoke openly about fear and about the ordinary difficulty of staying present with an uncertain future, refusing to perform a peace that wasn’t fully felt.

Gibson described this shift as something closer to surrender than achievement, a letting go of the need to control how the story ended in exchange for a fuller experience of what was happening right now.

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Activism Without a Death Grip on Outcomes

Gibson’s decades of work in queer, disability, and social justice movements gave the conversation another dimension: how does a lifelong activist hold hope when illness limits what the body can do? Gibson didn’t retreat from these questions, instead treating illness as another lens for examining how change actually happens. Several threads run through this part of the discussion:

  • Loosened Attachment: Committing to a cause without needing a specific outcome to feel it mattered.
  • Rest as Contribution: Recognizing presence and rest as valid forms of participation, not failures of dedication.
  • Joy Beside Grief: Letting both feelings coexist rather than treating one as a distraction.

Self-Love as a Radical Practice

Much of this conversation returns to self-love, not as an indulgent afterthought but as something Gibson treated as foundational work. Loving the self fully, Gibson suggested, is inseparable from loving the whole world, since the way we treat our own fear and fragility often mirrors how we treat everyone else’s. This wasn’t offered as a tidy affirmation but as ongoing practice, revisited daily and never fully finished, especially on days when self-compassion felt hardest to access.

Finding Joy in Every Instant

Gibson resisted the idea that joy has to wait for circumstances to improve. Even amid a serious diagnosis, Gibson described locating genuine joy inside small, present moments rather than deferring it to some future recovery. This wasn’t forced positivity; Gibson was candid about fear and grief throughout the conversation. The joy Gibson described lived alongside difficulty, not instead of it, which is part of what makes this teaching feel honest rather than aspirational, and part of why it has stayed with so many listeners since.

  • Small Moments Count: A conversation, a breath, or a piece of music could hold real joy.
  • No Waiting Required: Joy did not depend on the illness resolving or improving first.
  • Coexistence, Not Contradiction: Fear and joy showed up together without canceling each other out.

Authenticity as the Foundation of Gibson’s Writing

Throughout the conversation, Gibson returns to authenticity as the single most important quality in creative work. Writing that performs certainty or polish, in Gibson’s view, tends to ring hollow, while writing that admits confusion and fear invites readers closer rather than pushing them away. This belief shaped Gibson’s entire body of work, long before illness entered the picture, and it became even more pronounced once every page carried real stakes.

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Why This Conversation Stays With Sounds True

Sounds True has always believed spiritual teaching lands hardest when it comes from an unscripted, honest voice rather than a polished script. Gibson’s conversation with Tami embodies that belief completely, offering listeners a chance to sit with mortality alongside someone who was living it in real time rather than theorizing from a comfortable distance. That kind of transmission is rare, and it’s part of why this episode has continued to reach new listeners well beyond its original air date.

Final Thoughts

Andrea Gibson left behind a body of work that refuses to separate beauty from difficulty, and this conversation captures that refusal in its most direct form. At Sounds True, our mission has always been to wake up the world, and Gibson’s willingness to stay tender in the face of mortality is exactly the kind of courage that mission was built to honor. Their words remain in our library for anyone who needs company in facing what feels unfaceable, today or on a harder day ahead, and their voice continues to offer that company long after the recording ended.

Frequently Asked Questions About Andrea Gibson

Who was Andrea Gibson?

Andrea Gibson was Colorado’s 2023–25 Poet Laureate, celebrated for poetry on love, identity, and social justice.

When was this conversation originally recorded?

The conversation with Tami Simon originally aired in 2023 and was later shared again as an encore.

What poem does Gibson read during the episode?

Gibson reads “Acceptance Speech After Setting the World Record in Goosebumps” during the conversation.

Does Sounds True offer more of Gibson’s work?

Sounds True continues sharing Gibson’s recorded conversations and reflections through our podcast archives.

What podcast series includes this episode?

This conversation appears on Insights at the Edge, hosted by Sounds True founder Tami Simon.

Is this conversation appropriate for someone newly diagnosed?

Many listeners facing illness find comfort in Gibson’s honesty about fear, softness, and staying present.

Where can I explore similar teachings on self-compassion?

Visit our Self-Compassion collection for related titles and programs from other Sounds True authors.

Does Sounds True cover grief and loss elsewhere?

Yes, related conversations and resources appear throughout our Relationships and Spirituality & Awakening collections.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

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