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Eve Ekman, PhD, MSW, is a contemplative social scientist designing, delivering, and evaluating tools to support emotional awareness in the fields of health care, wellbeing, and technology. Eve draws from interdisciplinary skills and first-person experiential knowledge from clinical social work, integrative medicine and contemplative science, and meditation. Eve is lead teacher for Cultivating Emotional Balance, is wellbeing lead on the health team at Apple, is a Senior Fellow at Greater Good Science Center at UC Berkeley, and a fellow at the Mind and Life Institute.

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Eve Ekman, PhD, MSW, is a senior fellow at the Greater Good Science Center. A skilled speaker, researcher, and group facilitator with experience working in emergency rooms and other health-care settings, she brings a unique background ideally suited to training individuals and organizations in the science of resilience, compassion, mindfulness, and emotional awareness. With Sounds True, she is coauthor (with Dacher Keltner, PhD) of the online program The Greater Good Training for Health Professionals

In this podcast, Sounds True founder Tami Simon speaks with Dr. Eve Ekman about deepening our emotional awareness and developing our capacity to keep our hearts open, especially when working with others. Their conversation explores why some people experience burnout while others do not in the same situation; Eve’s work with her father on the Atlas of Emotions and its goal to help us calm the mind; the concept of emotion granularity; the practice of decentering to diffuse the power of an emotional experience; interoception and how it relates to being present; “unhooking from the narrative” when we find an emotion has been re-triggered; emotions as timelines that tell a story; the ongoing debate about the nature of anger; using technology as a force for good; sustainable empathy; emotional resonance and cognitive appraisal, and how these become a crucial juncture for empathy; repairing our health-care system while empowering those who work in it; what the research tells us about the importance of finding meaning; and more.

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Understanding your nervous system can feel overwhelming at first, especially when it seems to react without warning. One moment you’re grounded, and the next, you’re tense, withdrawn, or unsure of what triggered the change. For many, this cycle can feel confusing or even frustrating. But what if your body’s responses weren’t something to fix, but instead something to get to know? That’s the invitation behind Polyvagal Theory. It offers a way to understand why we feel the way we do and how we can gently support ourselves through those changes.

At Sounds True, we’ve had the honor of working with some of the world’s most respected voices in healing, mindfulness, and personal growth. Deb Dana is one of them. As a leading teacher of Polyvagal Theory and a powerful translator of nervous system wisdom, Deb brings warmth, clarity, and deep compassion to her work. Through our courses and podcast conversations, we’re proud to help bring her insights into daily life for anyone seeking more connection and safety within.

In this piece, we’ll be discussing Deb Dana’s unique approach to Polyvagal Theory, how to befriend your nervous system, and ways to bring nervous system regulation into your everyday experience.

Key Takeaways:

  • Understanding Polyvagal States: The nervous system shifts between states of connection, protection, and shutdown in response to cues of safety or threat.
  • Deb Dana’s Practical Wisdom: Deb Dana offers gentle, real-life ways to build awareness and regulation through small, consistent practices.
  • Everyday Application: Polyvagal-informed living supports emotional resilience, deeper relationships, and a greater sense of inner safety.

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What Is Polyvagal Theory?

Polyvagal Theory, developed by Dr. Stephen Porges, offers a new understanding of how our nervous system helps us navigate safety, connection, and survival. Rather than seeing the nervous system as a simple on/off switch for stress and relaxation, this theory describes a more nuanced system built around three key pathways: the ventral vagal, sympathetic, and dorsal vagal states.

Each of these states plays a role in how we respond to the world. When we’re in ventral vagal regulation, we feel safe, open, and connected. In sympathetic activation, the body gears up to protect us through the fight-or-flight response. And when that’s not possible, we may shift into dorsal vagal shutdown, which can feel like disconnection or collapse.

Polyvagal Theory helps us map these shifts, not as signs of dysfunction, but as adaptive responses to our inner and outer environment. This framework gives language to experiences that many people have felt but struggled to explain. It also lays a foundation for healing by understanding how the body communicates cues of safety and danger.

Deb Dana’s Approach To Nervous System Regulation

Deb Dana, a clinician and author deeply connected to Stephen Porges’s work, has played a vital role in making Polyvagal Theory accessible and applicable in everyday life. Her approach is rooted in the belief that regulation begins with awareness, not with trying to fix or override our nervous system, but by building a relationship with it.

Rather than pathologizing our responses, Deb invites us to get curious about them. When we begin to notice the shifts between states, like feeling open and connected one moment, then anxious or withdrawn the next, we start to understand the language of our nervous system.

Deb often describes this work as befriending the nervous system. That means learning to listen without judgment, responding with compassion, and practicing gentle ways of returning to safety and connection. It’s not about forcing calm, but about finding cues of safety that our unique system can trust.

Her guidance encourages small, consistent practices, such as tracking your state through the day, recognizing what helps you feel anchored, and using these insights to gently support nervous system regulation over time.

What It Means To Befriend Your Nervous System

To befriend your nervous system is to shift from self-criticism to self-compassion. It’s the practice of meeting your internal experience with kindness, even when it’s uncomfortable or unfamiliar.

For many of us, the nervous system has felt like something to overcome. We may have learned to push through anxiety, shut down emotion, or dismiss signals of exhaustion. But Deb Dana invites a different approach: one where we slow down and listen, where we get to know the patterns that shape our responses, and where we begin to trust that our bodies are trying to protect us, even when they’re not quite getting it right.

Befriending doesn’t mean controlling. It means becoming a companion to your own system. This can look like:

  • Noticing when your body feels safe and what helps you get there
  • Naming your state (without judgment)
  • Practicing ways to gently return to regulation

This relationship is built over time. It’s tender, respectful, and deeply personal. And it opens the door to greater resilience, not by avoiding discomfort, but by learning how to move through it with care.

Vagal Tone And The Path To Safety

Vagal tone is central to the body’s capacity for nervous system regulation. It reflects how easily we can shift into a state of calm and connection after stress. Supporting vagal tone isn’t about forcing the body to relax, it’s about creating environments and experiences that feel safe enough to allow that shift. Here’s how that can look in daily life:

What Is Vagal Tone?

Vagal tone describes the strength and responsiveness of the vagus nerve, which plays a vital role in regulating heart rate, digestion, and emotional state. A well-toned vagus nerve helps the body recover more quickly from stress and supports a felt sense of safety in both the body and mind.

Cues Of Safety: The Foundation Of Regulation

According to Deb Dana, nervous system regulation starts with cues of safety: experiences that tell the body it’s okay to soften. This might be eye contact with someone trustworthy, a soothing sound, or the rhythm of a steady breath. These cues signal the ventral vagal system to activate, bringing us into a state of calm engagement.

Practices That Support Vagal Tone

Strengthening vagal tone doesn’t require a dramatic change. Small, consistent actions like breathing slowly through the nose, humming, singing, or spending time with someone who helps you feel grounded can be deeply regulating. These practices gently guide the system back into connection.

From Survival To Connection

When vagal tone is strong, the nervous system becomes more flexible. This means we can move through sympathetic or dorsal states without getting stuck in them. Over time, this builds the capacity to return to connection more easily, even after moments of disconnection or overwhelm.

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Bringing Polyvagal Wisdom Into Daily Life

Understanding your nervous system is powerful, but what truly creates change is learning to live alongside it. Deb Dana encourages everyday practices that help us build a stronger relationship with our system, not through big interventions, but through small, meaningful moments of connection.

Begin With Awareness

The first step is simply noticing. How does your body respond in different settings? What does “regulated” feel like for you? By tracking your nervous system states throughout the day, you start to recognize patterns, and that awareness becomes the ground for change.

Build A Personal Map

Deb often speaks about creating a personal nervous system map. This means identifying your own signs of ventral, sympathetic, and dorsal states, and naming the things that help you shift. Maybe music brings you back, or a certain person’s voice helps you settle. Mapping these can guide you toward regulation when you need it most.

Practice Micro-Moments Of Regulation

Regulation isn’t about staying calm all the time; it’s about returning. Even brief practices, like placing a hand on your heart or stepping outside for fresh air, can bring a sense of anchoring. Over time, these micro-moments build a more stable foundation of safety.

Stay In A Relationship

We heal through connection, not isolation. Polyvagal practice isn’t a solo journey. Co-regulation, or feeling safe in the presence of others, is a key part of nervous system healing. This might come from a trusted friend, a therapist, or even the steady rhythm of a pet’s breathing beside you.

How Trauma Shapes Nervous System Responses

Trauma can reshape how the nervous system interprets the world. Instead of easily recognizing cues of safety, the system may become more attuned to cues of danger even when none are present. Deb Dana emphasizes that this isn’t a flaw. It’s a form of protection the body learned when it needed to survive.

Survival States Are Adaptive

When the nervous system perceives a threat, it automatically shifts into survival states such as fight-or-flight or shutdown. For someone who has experienced trauma, these responses may become more easily triggered, even in situations that feel safe to others. It’s the body doing what it knows to do to keep you safe.

The Importance Of Compassionate Awareness

Understanding these patterns with compassion is essential. Rather than asking, “What’s wrong with me?”, Deb invites us to ask, “What happened that shaped my system this way?” This shift softens judgment and opens the possibility for healing.

Regulation Takes Time And Trust

Regulation after trauma doesn’t happen overnight. It’s a process of slowly teaching the body that it no longer has to stay in protection mode. Through safe relationships, grounding practices, and patient attention, the system can begin to relearn what safety feels like.

Learn More With Deb Dana And Sounds True

For those who feel drawn to deepen their relationship with their nervous system, Deb Dana offers supportive, accessible guidance through Sounds True. Her courses and conversations are designed to meet people where they are, gently, without pressure, and with a deep respect for each person’s unique path.

To begin, the Befriending Your Nervous System program offers practical tools for working with your nervous system in everyday life. If you’re looking to understand how safety feels from the inside out, Finding Safety in Your Nervous System may be a helpful next step.

You can also listen to the Deb Dana Befriending Your Nervous System Podcast to hear her insights shared in conversation, or to explore The Healing Trauma Online Course for a more immersive experience.

Each of these offerings invites you into a gentler, more connected relationship with yourself, one grounded in the wisdom of your own nervous system.

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Final Thoughts

Polyvagal Theory gives us a language for something many of us have felt but didn’t know how to name: the constant shifts in how safe, connected, or overwhelmed we feel in our bodies. Through Deb Dana’s work, this understanding becomes not just theoretical, but personal, relational, and deeply human.

Befriending your nervous system isn’t about perfection. It’s about learning to notice, respond, and return again and again. It’s about offering yourself the same care and attunement you would offer someone you love. Over time, this practice becomes a way of living a quiet, steady return to connection.

Frequently Asked Questions About Polyvagal Theory

What does polyvagal mean in simple terms?

“Polyvagal” refers to the different branches of the vagus nerve that influence how we feel safe, respond to stress, and connect with others. It describes a system that helps us navigate connection, danger, and disconnection based on cues from our environment.

Can polyvagal theory help with anxiety?

Yes. Polyvagal Theory offers insight into how anxiety arises from nervous system states, helping people recognize when their system is in a stress response and how to shift toward a state of calm.

Is polyvagal theory supported by science?

Polyvagal Theory is rooted in neurophysiology and has a growing base of clinical application, especially in trauma therapy. While still evolving in research, it’s widely respected in somatic and therapeutic communities.

What role does breathwork play in polyvagal regulation?

Breathwork, especially slow, nasal breathing, can activate the vagus nerve and support regulation. It’s a gentle, accessible way to shift into a more connected state.

Can children benefit from polyvagal-informed practices?

Yes. Children, especially those with emotional or behavioral challenges, can benefit from environments that offer clear cues of safety and regulated adult presence.

How is co-regulation different from self-regulation?

Co-regulation happens through connection with others, such as being with someone calm and supportive, while self-regulation involves managing one’s own nervous system responses.

Does polyvagal theory apply to everyday stress?

Absolutely. Everyday stressors like social tension, noise, or change can trigger shifts in the nervous system. Polyvagal Theory helps explain and work with these shifts.

Is polyvagal theory only used in therapy?

No. While it’s widely used in therapeutic settings, its principles apply to relationships, parenting, education, leadership, and even creative practice.

Can someone be stuck in a survival state without realizing it?

Yes. Many people live in chronic sympathetic (anxious) or dorsal (shut down) states without having language for it. Polyvagal Theory offers a way to recognize and respond to these patterns.

How long does it take to “befriend” your nervous system?

There’s no fixed timeline. It’s an ongoing relationship that builds over time with consistent practice, gentle awareness, and supportive environments.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

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What if the greatest battle you’ll ever face is the one happening inside your own mind?

This week, Tami Simon speaks with Shi Heng Yi—a 35th generation Shaolin master, founder of the Shaolin Temple Europe, and author of Shaolin Spirit: The Way to Self-Mastery—about what it truly means to master yourself from the inside out.

Born in Germany to Vietnamese immigrant parents, Master Shi Heng Yi began martial arts training at age four and has spent decades making the profound teachings of Shaolin Buddhism accessible to modern seekers worldwide.

Join Tami and Shi Heng Yi to explore:

  • What self-mastery actually means—and why it has nothing to do with control
  • The difference between the self and the persona, and why most suffering comes from confusing the two
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  • How the body becomes a doorway to discovering what lies beyond it
  • The mind lessons hidden inside the Shaolin horse stance (mabu)
  • Why the heart of a Buddha and the fight of a warrior are not opposites
  • The yin dimension within one of the world’s most physically demanding traditions

Whether you’re carrying the weight of a heavy identity, stuck in a cycle of suffering, or simply curious about what ancient wisdom has to say to the modern world, listen in to discover the freedom that comes from turning inward.

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Caroline Myss on Medical Intuition: Reading the Body&#...

Medical intuition offers a way of understanding health that centers on meaning rather than symptoms alone. It views the body as an expression of inner experience, shaped by belief, emotion, and awareness. From this perspective, physical conditions reflect how we live, respond, and relate to our own truth.

At Sounds True, this understanding is woven into our mission. For nearly forty years, we have shared the living wisdom of spiritual teachers such as Caroline Myss, preserving their teachings in their own voices. Our work supports inner authority and conscious healing by honoring the connection between awareness and well-being.

In this piece, we will be discussing Caroline Myss on medical intuition, with attention to reading the body’s energy system, intuitive healing, and the chakra body connection.

Key Takeaways:

  • Medical intuition: How the body communicates meaning through physical and energetic signals
  • Caroline Myss’s perspective: Why inner awareness and responsibility are central to intuitive insight
  • Energy-based frameworks: How energy healing and the chakra system support understanding health patterns

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Medical Intuition and the Foundations of Intuitive Healing

Medical intuition recognizes that the body communicates through more than physical symptoms. It reflects the relationship between emotional life, belief systems, and spiritual awareness. From this view, illness often carries meaning connected to lived experience rather than chance or failure.

At Sounds True, we share teachings that honor this inner form of knowing. Medical intuition encourages a reflective relationship with health, one that values awareness, responsibility, and listening over control. It invites people to notice patterns in their lives and how those patterns may be mirrored in the body.

What Medical Intuition Reveals About Health

Medical intuition looks beyond diagnosis to understand why a condition may arise at a particular time. Stress, unresolved emotions, and inner conflict frequently surface through the body as signals calling for attention. This perspective adds personal context to healing while remaining compatible with medical care.

For those interested in deepening this understanding, The Science of Medical Intuition Online Course offers structured teaching on developing intuitive perception in a grounded and responsible way.

Why Intuitive Healing Resonates Across Healing Traditions

Intuitive healing appears across cultures because it reflects a shared human capacity to sense subtle information. It emphasizes discernment and self-honesty, inviting individuals to listen to the body as a source of insight and meaning. Healing, in this sense, becomes an ongoing dialogue between awareness and physical experience.

Caroline Myss on Medical Intuition and Inner Knowing

Caroline Myss teaches medical intuition as a disciplined practice of inner perception. Rather than focusing on prediction, her work emphasizes recognizing symbolic and energetic information within the body and understanding how belief, experience, and choice influence health.

At Sounds True, we continue to share her teachings because they encourage personal responsibility and self-honesty. Medical intuition, in this context, invites people to engage consciously with their inner guidance and the meaning behind physical symptoms.

Medical Intuition as a Practice of Insight

Myss frames medical intuition as the ability to read patterns rather than outcomes. Physical symptoms often reflect deeper emotional or spiritual themes seeking attention. Awareness of these patterns can bring clarity and support wiser choices.

Inner Knowing and the Energy Body

According to Myss, intuitive information arises through the energy body, not the intellect alone. Developing this awareness requires presence and discernment, strengthening the connection between inner knowing and embodied experience.

For a broader conversation on intuitive and energetic approaches to healing, The Energy Healing Summit gathers voices exploring how energy and consciousness inform well-being.

Energy Healing and Reading the Body’s Energy System

Energy healing views the body as an interconnected field of information. Physical symptoms are understood as expressions of energetic imbalance rather than isolated events. Reading the body’s energy system involves noticing where energy feels restricted and how emotional or spiritual experiences may contribute to that restriction.

At Sounds True, we present energy healing as a complementary way of understanding health. This perspective invites awareness of how life experiences, inner stress, and unexpressed emotion influence the body over time.

How Energy Healing Interprets Physical Symptoms

From an energy healing perspective, symptoms function as signals. Pain or illness often points to areas where energy has become stagnant or depleted. Paying attention to these signals can reveal recurring patterns related to stress, boundaries, or self-expression.

Learning to Listen to the Energy Body

Developing awareness of the energy body requires presence and patience. As this sensitivity deepens, intuition becomes clearer and trust in the body’s wisdom grows. Healing is approached as a process of restoring balance rather than correcting failure.

For readers interested in working directly with the energy body, Healing Through the Chakras offers insight into engaging the body’s energetic centers as part of the healing process.

The Chakra Body Connection in Medical Intuition

The chakra body connection offers a framework for understanding how inner life shapes physical health. In medical intuition, chakras are viewed as centers of consciousness that influence emotional, psychological, and bodily experience. Each chakra corresponds to specific themes, such as safety, creativity, communication, and meaning.

At Sounds True, we present the chakra system as a symbolic map that helps people interpret how personal experiences are held in the body. When energy within a chakra becomes imbalanced, it may express itself through physical discomfort or recurring life challenges.

Chakras as a Map of Consciousness and Health

Medical intuition uses the chakra system to identify where energy may be disrupted. Physical symptoms often align with the emotional or spiritual themes associated with a particular chakra. This insight can clarify how long-standing patterns influence health and behavior.

Emotional and Spiritual Patterns in the Energy Body

The chakra body connection highlights how emotional responses and belief systems affect energetic flow. By bringing awareness to these patterns, individuals can begin to restore balance and develop a more integrated relationship with their health.

For a deeper study of this framework, The Chakra System offers foundational teaching on how chakras relate to healing and personal growth.

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Intuitive Healing as a Practice of Personal Responsibility

Intuitive healing emphasizes personal responsibility as an essential part of the healing process. Rather than viewing health as something managed entirely from the outside, this approach encourages individuals to recognize their role in shaping their physical and energetic well-being. Awareness, choice, and self-reflection become central to healing.

At Sounds True, we present intuitive healing as a path that invites honesty and accountability. It asks people to notice how their responses to stress, relationships, and life challenges affect the body over time. This awareness supports a more conscious and compassionate relationship with health.

Developing Awareness of Energy and Choice

Intuitive healing begins with awareness. By paying attention to emotional responses and recurring physical signals, individuals can better understand how energy moves through their lives. This awareness creates space for new choices that support balance and vitality.

Listening to the Body as a Spiritual Teacher

The body often reflects truths that have not yet reached conscious awareness. Intuitive healing encourages listening to physical sensations as guidance rather than obstacles. Over time, this listening strengthens trust in inner wisdom and supports healing as an ongoing process.

Teaching Medical Intuition Through Energy Healing and the Chakra System

Teaching medical intuition requires structure as well as introspection. Energy healing and the chakra system provide a shared language for understanding how inner experience influences physical health. Together, they help translate intuitive insight into something that can be studied, reflected upon, and responsibly applied.

At Sounds True, we approach these teachings as educational rather than prescriptive. Learning medical intuition involves developing self-awareness, ethical clarity, and discernment. The chakra system offers a framework for recognizing recurring themes in health and life, while energy healing encourages sensitivity to how those themes are embodied.

This approach supports learning that is grounded and experiential. Students are invited to observe their own patterns, question long-held beliefs, and cultivate a deeper relationship with inner guidance. Over time, medical intuition becomes less about interpretation and more about presence and understanding.

Energy Healing as a Language of Medical Intuition

Energy healing functions as a language through which medical intuition can be understood and communicated. It offers a way to interpret subtle information the body conveys through sensation, emotion, and energetic shift. Rather than relying on diagnosis alone, this language emphasizes awareness of patterns that repeat across physical, emotional, and spiritual experience.

At Sounds True, we view energy healing as a bridge between intuitive insight and conscious understanding. It helps articulate what the body is expressing and supports a deeper relationship with inner guidance. Over time, this language becomes familiar, allowing intuition to be recognized with greater clarity and trust.

Medical intuition, expressed through energy healing, invites a form of listening that is steady and reflective. It encourages engagement with the body as a source of wisdom and meaning, reinforcing healing as an ongoing relationship rather than a fixed outcome.

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Final Thoughts

Medical intuition invites a way of listening that is patient, honest, and deeply personal. Through the teachings of Caroline Myss, the body is understood not as something separate from life experience but as an active participant in expressing meaning, choice, and truth. Energy healing and the chakra system offer language and structure for this listening, helping intuitive insight become clearer and more grounded.

At Sounds True, we hold these teachings as invitations rather than answers. Medical intuition does not ask for certainty or perfection. It asks for presence. By paying attention to the body’s signals and the patterns beneath them, healing becomes an ongoing relationship rooted in awareness and responsibility.

Frequently Asked Questions About Medical Intuition

What makes medical intuition different from conventional diagnosis?

Medical intuition focuses on symbolic and energetic information rather than identifying disease. It seeks meaning and pattern, not clinical determination.

Is medical intuition tied to a specific spiritual belief system?

No. While it is often discussed in spiritual contexts, medical intuition can be explored without adherence to a particular tradition or doctrine.

Can anyone learn medical intuition, or is it an innate gift?

Medical intuition is generally taught as a capacity that can be developed through awareness, self-reflection, and ethical practice rather than a rare talent.

How does medical intuition relate to personal decision-making?

It can support clarity around choices by highlighting inner conflicts or misalignments that may influence health and behavior.

Does medical intuition replace professional medical care?

Medical intuition is typically presented as complementary. It adds insight but does not serve as a substitute for medical diagnosis or treatment.

Why is symbolism important in medical intuition?

Symbolism helps translate subtle bodily or emotional experiences into language that the conscious mind can reflect on and understand.

How does fear affect intuitive perception?

Fear can distort intuitive insight by narrowing awareness. Many teachings emphasize emotional balance to support clearer perception.

Is medical intuition focused on illness only?

No. It can also be applied to understanding vitality, life transitions, creativity, and emotional well-being.

How does personal history influence intuitive readings?

Life experiences, belief systems, and unresolved patterns often shape how the body communicates through sensation or imbalance.

What role does ethics play in medical intuition?

Ethics are central. Responsible practice emphasizes humility, consent, and respect for personal and professional boundaries.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

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