A.H. Almaas and Henry Shukman: “The Many Faces of Awakening”

December 16, 2025

A.H. Almaas and Henry Shukman: “The Many Faces of Awakening”

A.H. Almaas & Henry Shukman December 16, 2025

What if awakening isn’t a single destination but an endless unfolding of reality’s many faces? This week on Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon facilitates a groundbreaking conversation between two of the most profound spiritual teachers of our time: A.H. Almaas (Hameed Ali), founder of the Diamond Approach, and Zen teacher Henry Shukman.

In this rare dialogue, these teachers—meeting for the first time—explore how different wisdom traditions point to distinct dimensions of awakened experience. Rather than claiming all paths lead to the same mountaintop, they celebrate the unique territory each tradition reveals: from the “blazing forth” of creative emptiness to experiences where consciousness itself dissolves, from the recognition that each point contains the entire universe to the discovery that everything is made of love.

Join Tami, Hameed, and Henry to discover:

  • Why awakening is an endless process rather than a final arrival
  • The profound difference between thinking and heart-knowing
  • How to navigate the fear that arises at the threshold of ego dissolution 
  • The role of trust, compassion, and basic trust in profound transformation 
  • What happens when individual consciousness completely ceases 
  • Why nothingness and being are inseparable faces of reality 
  • How grief and catastrophic loss can become doorways to awakening 
  • The Zen teaching of uni-locality—experiencing that one point is everything 
  • Why love may be the most fundamental nature of reality itself

This conversation offers genuine transmission—not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together. Originally aired on Sounds True One

A.H. Almaas is the pen name of A. Hameed Ali who has written more than 14 books including his most recent The Unfolding Now. In 1976, he founded the Ridhwan School, an organization with members in North America, Europe, and Australia that is dedicated to promoting the Diamond Approach®. Almaas resides in the San Francisco Bay area.

Author photo © Hameed Qabazard

Henry Shukman is an authenticated Zen master in the Sanbo Zen lineage, Spiritual Director Emeritus of Mountain Cloud Zen Center, and co-founder of The Way meditation app. He is also an award-winning author and poet. Henry’s traumatic experiences as a youth, combined with a spontaneous awakening experience at 19, paved the way for his development of a well-rounded approach to spirituality and meditation – one that includes love for self and the world as its foundation. For more, see henryshukman.com and thewayapp.com.

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In this rare dialogue, these teachers—meeting for the first time—explore how different wisdom traditions point to distinct dimensions of awakened experience. Rather than claiming all paths lead to the same mountaintop, they celebrate the unique territory each tradition reveals: from the “blazing forth” of creative emptiness to experiences where consciousness itself dissolves, from the recognition that each point contains the entire universe to the discovery that everything is made of love.

Join Tami, Hameed, and Henry to discover:

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  • Why nothingness and being are inseparable faces of reality 
  • How grief and catastrophic loss can become doorways to awakening 
  • The Zen teaching of uni-locality—experiencing that one point is everything 
  • Why love may be the most fundamental nature of reality itself

This conversation offers genuine transmission—not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together. Originally aired on Sounds True One

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To learn more about the Diamond Approach, visit https://www.diamondapproach.org/

Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

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In this rare dialogue, these teachers—meeting for the first time—explore how different wisdom traditions point to distinct dimensions of awakened experience. Rather than claiming all paths lead to the same mountaintop, they celebrate the unique territory each tradition reveals: from the “blazing forth” of creative emptiness to experiences where consciousness itself dissolves, from the recognition that each point contains the entire universe to the discovery that everything is made of love.

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