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Cyndi Dale: Becoming Your Own Best Ancestor

Cyndi Dale — July 1, 2025

On the surface, it appears as though the lives we live proceed forward moment by moment in a strictly linear way. Could it be we’ve got it all wrong? Renowned energy healer and teacher Cyndi Dale offers a wildly different perspective on our human journey—a paradigm-shattering cosmology where our current, past, parallel, and future selves coexist in realms beyond the grasp of the rational mind. In her book Transforming the Legacy, Cyndi helps readers create a partnership with these energetic aspects of ourselves to identify and heal soul-based and lineage-ancestry issues.

In this podcast, Tami Simon speaks with Cyndi about Transforming the Legacy and a broad swath of fascinating topics including: past lives and reincarnation; quantum physics and how our past, present, and future lives coexist; our two neurological systems: the (linear) digital and the (timeless) analog; the phenomenon of loop quantum gravity and how our parallel lives unfold in connection and concurrently; healing the past for empowerment here and now; the 12-chakra model; the ancestral energies we receive pre-conception; soul-level agreements we choose prior to incarnating; changing the “program” to change the person; finding your “God spot,” or your connection to divine intelligence within; combining intuition with somatic practice on the path of healing and growth; applying subtle energy work to resolve money issues; the “wild tornadoes” metaphor for the chakras; spiritual light; overcoming our psychological discomfort around making difficult changes; addressing illness and disease on both the physical and subtle levels; the practice of becoming your own good ancestor; and more.

Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

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Meet Your Subtle Body: Discover Cyndi Dale’s 12-Chak...

Cyndi Dale
Dani Ferrara — August 22, 2019

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“I think [the 12-chakra system] is a good compilation to get us going so that we can be the entirety of the human that we are—the human divine being that we are.”

—Cyndi Dale

As seekers, instead of following set rules, we may set out to discover routes that feel uniquely true and right for us.

Cyndi Dale, a luminary writer on the subtle body and its connection to the physical world, works with a unique 12-chakra system in her healing practice.

Cyndi’s 12-chakra vision helps her pinpoint feelings and where wounds are emanating from the invisible, spiritual self.

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WHAT IS THE SUBTLE BODY?

Each of us have both a physical body and a subtle body. The physical is what we think of normally: our shape, our volume, and that which we can touch. The subtle body arises from a different place: the intuition.

The subtle body seems to be some sort of underground pathway for our physical one. It is invisible not because it doesn’t exist, but because it’s sub-observable to the five senses we normally use. I might even argue that she sees the intuition as the 6th sense, and that the creative nature of our spirits gives us the ability to wield this power for healing.

Just like quantum physicists are starting to say, our world (or, at least, some dimension of our world) is not physical at all, but actually consists of “immaterial energy waves.” These waves somehow come together and entangle to create the material world.

As I listened to Cyndi’s interview with Tami, I was struck by the idea that healers like her use the subtle body every day. In the interview, she really helps you comprehend how that’s possible by guiding you through an exercise that’s less about understanding and way more about feeling. (It made me whisper, “whoa!” out loud.)

Here’s an exercise from that part of the interview if you want to try it:

Rub your hands together until you create some friction, and then put your hands palms facing each other about three or four inches apart. You’ll feel that there’s still an energy in between those hands—because there’s chakras in the hands and because there’s fields of energy emanating from the hands.

If you start patting your hands, not touching them, but kind of patting that energy ball. Again, you can bring your consciousness into your hands and pour more energy into that ball that’s being created. All of a sudden, you’re going to feel like your hands are moving farther away from each other. If you turn the spigot down, your hands—in order to feel that friction or the energy between them—are going to move closer together. Then a really fun thing to do is imagine or turn that energy red—it’s not clear anymore; it’s red—and get a sense of how that red energy field can have a certain reaction to red, especially in comparison to blue . . . as we’re now going to turn that energy blue. It’s really different, isn’t it?

About energy workers and healers she says: “They’re consciously kind of deciding what type of energy might be useful, what might be helpful for them, for somebody else, and they’re sending that.”

THE 12-CHAKRA SYSTEM

According to Cyndi, the western tradition of the 7-chakra system is based on a book by Sir Arthur Avalon.

Chakras are eddies of light and sound. They interact, dance, rotate and orbit us like our very own planets.

from MindBodyGreen

THE 12 CHAKRAS

1. Root

The root chakra is about spirituality, purpose and connection, as well as our relationship to Mother Nature and the Earth. It is associated with the underlying structures (both intuitive and ordered) of our minds. It is associated with pheremones and our sense of smell

2. Sacral

This is a chakra of motion and flow, representing the water element in the body. It bears a relationship to reproduction and fertility, joy and desire, and the kind of rest that encourages immune system recovery. It is associated with our sense of taste.

3. Solar Plexus

The solar plexus is a fiery center for our unique powers and gifts. When it’s in balance, we can feel like our lives are autonomous and in harmony with our value system. It helps define the energy that guides our motivations, disposition and mood, and it expands our idea of what’s possible when we are inspired by it.

4. Heart

The heart chakra is related to our personal and romantic relationships. When it is in balance, we might be immersed in feelings of joy and real freedom. It is strengthened through trust, non-manipulative communication, and authentic respect for ourselves and others. It is also strengthened by the exploration and implementation of personal boundaries. With the heart, we send and receive our gifts.

5. Throat

Here is our center for speaking and listening. The throat enables expression and facilitates spiritual dawnings of both rational and emotional understanding. Balancing the throat chakra can help prevent burnout. If you have writer’s block, it can be helpful to check with this chakra.

6. Third Eye

The third eye is associated with the pineal gland and rules telepathic ability. A vortex of sublimation, it is empowered by critical thinking, especially when we seek to release fear and guilt. Through the third eye, we can become more lucid, deepening our understanding that duality is an illusion. Opening it helps us to understand symbols and receive messages in both dreams and waking life.

7. Crown

The crown chakra is related to your nervous system and brain. Tap into its power by becoming present in the body through meditation, visualization and relaxation. It can look like a circle of light around your head, and is an expansion into space where you connect with the rest of the universe. It is related to transcendence & wisdom.

8. Soul/Shaman

Located a few inches above the head, this chakra encompasses past lives and your memories of other dimensions. From Cyndi’s description, it is a beautiful, mysterious chakra that connects our physical body to our soul’s experience in its totality. It empowers our ability to transcend spacetime and engage with “the sphere of potentialities in the making.” When it’s in harmony, it becomes easier to communicate with beings in other realms, like your spirit guides.

9. Luminary

This chakra is about an arm’s length above the top of your head. Lift your hand all the way up to connect with where it is. Cyndi sees this chakra as gold, related to our connection to the divine. It is the space of the greater spirit, the “seat of the soul,” which can act as a doorway into your divine self and your archetypal patternings.

10. Earth

This chakra blooms from beneath your feet. It is how your body connects to the earth, a cord that goes through the legs and feet into the ground. It is associated with nature and the cosmos in their simple essence, and the memories that arise from it can be related to ancestral lessons and inherited traumas. Substantial healing can arise from relationship with this chakra.

11. Supernatural

This chakra is “actually around the body. It’s like this lovely rose film, like way out in our energy field, but it’s collected around the hands and the feet.” Through this chakra, you can discover your inherent connection with both natural and supernatural forces. In this part of the interview, Cyndi mentions that chakras are located in multiple dimensions, existing in different places at the same time. She observes this chakra, which is responsible for our ability to move energy, as energy balls around the hands and feet.

12. Auric

This chakra surrounds the auric field of the body like a halo. Cyndi says, “I think of [it] as the outer bounds of our own unique essence or our own spirit.” She emphasizes the uniqueness of this chakra—its defining characteristic is you, and your individual purpose as a spiritual being. There is a connection between this chakra and the ability to envision, create and become, alongside the truth of universal unity.

Listen to Tami’s full interview with Cyndi Dale here on Insights at the Edge.

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ABOUT CYNDI

Cyndi Dale is an internationally renowned author, speaker, intuitive healer, and visionary who has taught thousands of students to access their spiritual gifts through her books and workshops. She has authored several groundbreaking books and audio programs on energy healing and the chakras, including The Subtle Body, The Subtle Body Practice Manual, Advanced Chakra Healing, Energy Clearing, Attracting Prosperity Through the Chakras, and New Chakra Healing. Her work has been translated into nine languages.

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR

When she isn’t writing poetry or music, Dani Ferrara blogs for Sounds True and seeks to learn more about healing alchemy. Learn more about her art at daniferrarapoet.com.

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Cyndi Dale: Discovering Your Subtle Body

Cyndi Dale — July 16, 2019

Cyndi Dale is a renowned intuitive healer, bestselling author, and recognized expert on energy healing. With Sounds True, Cyndi has published the seminal The Subtle Body: An Encyclopedia of Your Energetic Anatomy and The Subtle Body Practice Manual: A Comprehensive Guide to Energy Healing. Sounds True will also be hosting Cyndi’s upcoming online course The Subtle Body Online Training Program. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon speaks with Cyndi about the many extraordinary experiences and important lessons that brought Cyndi to energy healing. They discuss the basic structures of the subtle anatomy and how physical ailments often have energetic causes. Cyndi explains her understanding of the chakras and details how people can maintain their personal energetic boundaries. Finally, Cyndi leads listeners in an exercise for recognizing their own subtle energetic field and talks to Tami about the “energy egg” that surrounds each of us. (70 minutes)

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Jasper Young Bear: “Prophecies for This Time: Wh...

— June 2, 2026

Something is shifting in the world—and the Indigenous peoples of Turtle Island have seen it coming for generations.

This week, Tami Simon speaks with Jasper Young Bear—wisdom keeper, storyteller, founder of the Medicine Lodge Confederacy, and member of the Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara Nation—about the sacred oral teachings he was entrusted to carry, and why he has chosen this urgent moment to share them with the world. Jasper is the featured teacher in a new medicine film and four-part audio series, The Creation Story, available to watch and listen to for free at thecreationstory.co.

Join Tami and Jasper to explore:

The Seventh Generation prophecy—and why we are living inside its fulfillment right now
The Prophecy of the Eagle and the Condor, and what the reunification of North and South means for the human family
Why the greatest preparation for coming change is spiritual and emotional—not physical
The sacred laws woven into Indigenous creation stories, and what whole-to-part perception makes possible
The importance of forgiving the unforgivable—and how it opens the frequency of true freedom
Ceremony as living technology: sweat lodges, sacred instruments, and star knowledge as tools of consciousness
Why Jasper believes love—not systems, not ideology—is ultimately what will heal the human family

This interview is unlike most. Tami listens more than she asks. And what Jasper Young Bear offers is truly a transmission: a vision of where we are, where we’re headed, and what each of us can do to become a worthy ancestor for the generations yet to come.

Watch and listen to The Creation Story for free at thecreationstory.co.

This conversation offers genuine transmission—not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together. Originally aired on Sounds True One.

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Andrew Holecek: Stop, Drop, and Be Held in the Dark

Andrew Holecek — May 26, 2026

What if the most transformative place you could go isn’t a retreat center or a therapist’s office—but complete and total darkness?

This week, Tami Simon speaks with Andrew Holecek—interdisciplinary scholar, longtime practitioner of Tibetan Buddhism, and author of the new Sounds True book Total Eclipse of the Mind: Unleashing the Power of Darkness for Creativity, Healing, and Transformation—about the practice of dark retreat: full immersion in sealed, lightless environments used by yogis for centuries to accelerate inner transformation.

Holecek calls it the single most transformative practice of his fifty years of meditation, psychedelic exploration, and three-year Tibetan retreat—and in this interview, he explains why.

Join Tami and Andrew to explore:

What actually happens to the mind in extended darkness—and the neurological science behind why it’s so transformative
The descent of the mind through conscious, subconscious, and collective unconscious layers—and what waits at the bottom
Dark retreat as a “sober psychedelic”: how the brain generates its own endogenous DMT in extended darkness
The practice of enantiodromia—when extreme contraction suddenly flips into extraordinary openness
How to work with panic, trauma, and unwanted experience using the “reverse meditation” principle: feel it, but don’t feed it
Why appearances don’t matter in the dark—and why so many people emerge in tears, feeling safe and held for the first time
The four-step process for integrating darkness into daily life, from sleep masks to dedicated dark rooms

This interview was recorded with both Tami and Andrew wearing blackout masks—making it one of the most immersive listening experiences in Insights at the Edge history.

Listen now and discover what’s been waiting in the dark. →

This episode is sponsored by Omega Institute, a global gathering hub for lifelong learning and spiritual exploration. Located in upstate New York’s beautiful Hudson Valley, Omega offers weekend workshops, special events, rest and rejuvenation retreats, professional trainings, online learning, and more. Discover what calls to you at eomega.org/true.

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Michelle Cassandra Johnson — May 20, 2026

What does it mean to listen to the soul when it feels most exposed? In Marion Woodman’s teachings, moments of vulnerability are not interruptions but invitations to pay attention. Soul vulnerability often shows up through the body, through emotion, or through a quiet sense that something within us is asking to be heard. When we stay present, these experiences begin to reveal deeper meaning through the Jungian feminine, aging wisdom, and Jungian psychology depth.

For decades, we have been devoted to sharing the living wisdom of transformative teachers, preserving their voices in ways that remain true to their depth and presence. Our work brings forward teachings from leading spiritual visionaries, offering guidance that supports inner growth, emotional honesty, and a more embodied way of being .

Here, we look at Marion Woodman on the soul’s vulnerability and how listening to our deepest wisdom can guide a more grounded and aware life.

Key Takeaways:

Embodied Wisdom: Soul vulnerability reveals insight through the body, emotions, and inner experience.
Feminine Awareness: The Jungian feminine supports deeper listening, intuition, and connection to the psyche.
Aging Insight: Aging wisdom deepens reflection and helps integrate life experiences with greater clarity.

Marion Woodman on Soul Vulnerability, Jungian Feminine, Aging Wisdom, and Jungian Psychology Depth

What does it mean to truly listen to the soul, especially in moments when we feel most exposed or uncertain? In the teachings of Marion Woodman, soul vulnerability is not something to avoid or overcome. It is a vital expression of the psyche asking for our attention. At Sounds True, we have long been devoted to sharing living wisdom in the authentic voices of transformative teachers, preserving insights that invite us into deeper presence and self-understanding. Woodman’s work within Jungian psychology offers a compassionate and embodied path toward this kind of listening. She reminds us that the Jungian feminine lives not in abstraction but in the body, in feeling, and in the rhythms of lived experience. As we grow and change, aging wisdom begins to shape how we meet our vulnerability. Rather than turning away, we are invited to stay, to sense, and to trust that something meaningful is unfolding within us.

Understanding Soul Vulnerability Through Jungian Feminine, Aging Wisdom, and Jungian Psychology Depth

Soul vulnerability often appears at the edges of our comfort. It may arise through loss, illness, transition, or moments when our usual ways of coping no longer hold. Within Jungian psychology, these moments are not seen as failures. They are invitations into a deeper relationship with the psyche.

Soul Vulnerability as an Opening to the Jungian Feminine

The Jungian feminine speaks in a language that is often quiet and symbolic. It is present in dreams, in bodily sensations, and in the subtle shifts of emotion that move through us. When we allow ourselves to experience soul vulnerability, we begin to soften the barriers that keep us disconnected from this inner voice. Woodman taught that the body is not separate from the psyche. It carries memory, truth, and intelligence. When we listen closely, we begin to recognize how the Jungian feminine guides us toward wholeness through feeling and presence rather than force or control.

Aging Wisdom and the Deepening of Jungian Psychology Depth

With time, our relationship to vulnerability changes. Aging wisdom brings perspective, allowing us to see how earlier experiences have shaped our inner life. Within Jungian psychology, this is part of the individuation process, a gradual unfolding of the self. Soul vulnerability becomes less overwhelming and more meaningful. We begin to trust that even difficult experiences carry insight. This trust does not remove pain, but it creates space for reflection and integration.

Soul Vulnerability and the Jungian Feminine in Aging Wisdom and Jungian Psychology Depth

As these elements come together, we begin to sense a different way of being with ourselves. There is less urgency to fix and more willingness to understand.

The Body as a Guide in Soul Vulnerability

Woodman’s work consistently returns to the body as a source of wisdom. Physical sensations, fatigue, or tension can reflect deeper emotional truths. When we approach these experiences with curiosity, we open a pathway into soul vulnerability. The Jungian feminine supports this process by inviting us to feel rather than analyze. Aging wisdom allows us to recognize patterns and respond with greater care. Over time, we learn that the body is not an obstacle but a guide.

Integrating Experience Through Jungian Psychology Depth

Integration within Jungian psychology depth involves holding complexity. We are not asked to eliminate contradiction but to remain present with it. Soul vulnerability allows us to acknowledge both strength and fragility. The Jungian feminine encourages us to stay connected to our inner experience, while aging wisdom reminds us that understanding unfolds gradually. This integration creates a sense of groundedness that supports authentic living.

Exploring Soul Vulnerability, Jungian Feminine, Aging Wisdom, and Jungian Psychology Depth

There is a natural rhythm to inner work that cannot be rushed. Woodman’s teachings invite us to honor that rhythm and to trust the unfolding process of the psyche.

The Role of Relationship in Soul Vulnerability

Relationships often bring our vulnerability into focus. They reflect aspects of ourselves that may remain hidden when we are alone. Through connection, we encounter both our capacity for love and our fears of being seen. The Jungian feminine encourages openness in these moments, while aging wisdom helps us respond with patience and understanding. Within Jungian psychology, depth and relationships are understood as essential to growth, offering mirrors that reveal where healing is needed.

Trusting the Unfolding of the Psyche

The psyche moves in cycles rather than straight lines. There are times of clarity and times of uncertainty. Soul vulnerability is part of this movement. The Jungian feminine invites us to remain present with what is emerging, even when it feels unclear. Aging wisdom supports a longer view, helping us recognize that meaning often appears over time. Within Jungian psychology, this unfolding is part of becoming more fully ourselves.

The Jungian Feminine, Soul Vulnerability, Aging Wisdom, and Jungian Psychology Depth in Practice

Bringing these insights into daily life can begin with small, intentional shifts in attention. We do not need to change everything at once. We can begin by listening more closely.

Take time for quiet reflection each day, allowing space for inner awareness to arise naturally
Notice bodily sensations without judgment, recognizing them as expressions of the psyche
Record dreams or images that stay with you, honoring their symbolic meaning
Engage in creative practices that allow feeling and imagination to take form
Reflect on life experiences and how they have contributed to your growing aging wisdom

These practices are gentle invitations. They support a relationship with soul vulnerability that is rooted in care rather than pressure. Over time, they help cultivate a deeper connection to the Jungian feminine and the insights of Jungian psychology depth.

Aging Wisdom, Soul Vulnerability, Jungian Feminine, and Jungian Psychology Depth in Inner Work

Inner work asks for honesty and patience. It is not always comfortable, yet it is deeply meaningful. Aging wisdom brings a willingness to reflect rather than react. Soul vulnerability becomes a guide, pointing toward areas that call for attention. The Jungian feminine supports a compassionate approach, one that honors both the body and the emotions that arise. Within the depth of Jungian psychology, this work is essential to individuation. It invites us to engage with unconscious material and bring it into awareness. As we do so, we begin to experience a sense of coherence within ourselves. We are no longer divided between what we show and what we hide. Instead, we move toward a more integrated way of being.

Soul Vulnerability and Aging Wisdom Through the Lens of Jungian Feminine and Jungian Psychology Depth

As we continue to listen to the soul, vulnerability begins to feel less threatening. It becomes a source of guidance. Aging wisdom allows us to recognize patterns and approach them with greater openness. The Jungian feminine deepens our connection to feeling and intuition, helping us navigate the complexities of inner life. Within Jungian psychology, this transformation reflects a growing relationship with the self. Soul vulnerability is no longer something to resist. It is something to honor.

Integrating Soul Vulnerability, Jungian Feminine, Aging Wisdom, and Jungian Psychology Depth

Integration is a living process that unfolds over time. It asks for attention, patience, and a willingness to remain open. Soul vulnerability remains at the center, inviting us to stay connected to our experience. The Jungian feminine offers a way of understanding the body, emotion, and imagination as sources of wisdom. Aging wisdom deepens our capacity to reflect and integrate what we have lived. Within Jungian psychology depth, this movement toward wholeness is ongoing. As we continue to listen, we begin to sense a quiet alignment within ourselves. It is not something we force. It emerges through presence, through care, and through a growing trust in the intelligence of the soul.

Final Thoughts

Soul vulnerability invites us to stay present with our inner experience, even when it feels uncertain. Through the lens of the Jungian feminine, aging wisdom, and Jungian psychology depth, we begin to recognize this vulnerability as a source of insight rather than something to overcome.

Over time, this way of listening deepens our connection to ourselves, shaping a more grounded and attentive way of being.

Frequently Asked Questions About Marion Woodman and Soul Vulnerability

What is Marion Woodman best known for in spiritual psychology?

Marion Woodman is known for her work in analytical psychology, particularly her focus on embodiment, the feminine psyche, and the relationship between psyche and soma.

How does Marion Woodman define the soul in her teachings?

She often describes the soul as a living presence expressed through the body, dreams, and emotions rather than something abstract or separate from daily life.

What role does the body play in Jungian psychology depth?

The body is seen as an essential messenger of the unconscious, offering signals that reflect deeper psychological and emotional realities.

How is the Jungian feminine different from traditional ideas of femininity?

The Jungian feminine refers to an archetypal energy present in all people, emphasizing receptivity, intuition, and connection to inner life rather than gender roles.

Why is aging wisdom important in inner development?

Aging wisdom brings perspective, helping individuals reflect on life experiences and integrate lessons that support emotional and spiritual maturity.

How can someone begin studying Jungian psychology depth?

Many begin through books, guided courses, therapy, or lectures that introduce core concepts like archetypes, dreams, and the unconscious.

What makes Marion Woodman’s teachings relevant today?

Her emphasis on embodiment and emotional honesty resonates in a time when many feel disconnected from their inner lives and physical experience.

Can soul vulnerability support creative expression?

Yes, being open to vulnerability often allows deeper emotional material to surface, which can enrich creative practices like writing, art, or movement.

How do dreams relate to soul vulnerability?

Dreams can reveal hidden emotions and symbolic messages, offering insight into areas where the psyche seeks attention or healing.

Is Jungian psychology’s depth connected to spiritual practice?

While rooted in psychology, it often intersects with spirituality by addressing meaning, purpose, and the experience of the inner self.