Mark Nepo: Age Like a Meteor

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February 17, 2026

Mark Nepo: Age Like a Meteor

Mark Nepo February 17, 2026

What if aging isn’t about decline, but about becoming brighter—like a meteor that grows more luminous even as it falls through the atmosphere?

Tami Simon speaks with beloved poet-philosopher Mark Nepo about his deeply moving new book, The Fifth Season: Creativity in the Second Half of Life. Drawing from Chinese wisdom traditions and his own journey through chronic pain and back surgery, Mark illuminates aging as the “heavenly pivot” (love that phrase) which is the transformative shift from living outwardly to inhabiting life from the inside out.

Join Mark and Tami for this episode to explore:

  • The meteor metaphor: how we grow brighter as our outer casing flakes away • “Entering time” versus moving through it—and why slowing down opens the eternal moment • The paradox of limitation: how loss simultaneously deepens and expands us • Breaking through to joy as the depth of being that holds all the waves • Why the heart, not the mind, must lead in the second half of life • Living with chronic pain and learning to let beauty in while suffering • The difference between being victims of life versus initiates into life • How grief changes everything and why we don’t get over it, we get under it • Being swift of heart—living without hesitation from the inside out

Mark’s wisdom arises from decades of spiritual practice, surviving cancer, and facing the inevitable losses that come with a long life—essential listening for anyone navigating aging, chronic pain, loss, or simply seeking to live more fully present to the life they have.

Listen now to discover how the second half of life can be your most luminous yet.

This conversation offers genuine transmission—not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together. Originally aired on Sounds True One.

Mark Nepo is a poet and philosopher who has taught in the fields of poetry and spirituality for over 40 years. A New York Times #1 bestselling author, he has published 21 books and recorded 14 audio projects. Mark has been interviewed several times by Oprah Winfrey as part of her Super Soul Sunday TV show, and was interviewed by Robin Roberts on Good Morning America. As a cancer survivor, Mark devotes his writing and teaching to the journey of inner transformation and the life of relationship. His work has been translated into more than 20 languages. For more, see marknepo.com.

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Mark Nepo: Age Like a Meteor

What if aging isn’t about decline, but about becoming brighter—like a meteor that grows more luminous even as it falls through the atmosphere?

Tami Simon speaks with beloved poet-philosopher Mark Nepo about his deeply moving new book, The Fifth Season: Creativity in the Second Half of Life. Drawing from Chinese wisdom traditions and his own journey through chronic pain and back surgery, Mark illuminates aging as the “heavenly pivot” (love that phrase) which is the transformative shift from living outwardly to inhabiting life from the inside out.

Join Mark and Tami for this episode to explore:

  • The meteor metaphor: how we grow brighter as our outer casing flakes away • “Entering time” versus moving through it—and why slowing down opens the eternal moment • The paradox of limitation: how loss simultaneously deepens and expands us • Breaking through to joy as the depth of being that holds all the waves • Why the heart, not the mind, must lead in the second half of life • Living with chronic pain and learning to let beauty in while suffering • The difference between being victims of life versus initiates into life • How grief changes everything and why we don’t get over it, we get under it • Being swift of heart—living without hesitation from the inside out

Mark’s wisdom arises from decades of spiritual practice, surviving cancer, and facing the inevitable losses that come with a long life—essential listening for anyone navigating aging, chronic pain, loss, or simply seeking to live more fully present to the life they have.

Listen now to discover how the second half of life can be your most luminous yet.

This conversation offers genuine transmission—not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together. Originally aired on Sounds True One.

Mark Nepo: The Half-Life of Angels

How do we know our own authenticity? How can we return to our hearts when we find we’ve left them? As we evolve and change along our journey, how do we relate to the “former selves” in our past? In this podcast, Tami Simon and poet-philosopher Mark Nepo address these questions and more, as they discuss his creative process; his new book, The Half-Life of Angels; and how we can each touch the ever-present and wholly miraculous “spark of becoming” waiting to guide our lives. 

Tune in as Tami and Mark talk about the introspective nature of the creative process; the metaphor of the soul as an inlet; congruency; how the heart shatters but inevitably heals; becoming a student to the mystery of life; the meaning of the word “admit,” and the practice of return; seeing through the lens of the miraculous; the intersection of meditation and creativity; the art of re-visioning; how a commitment to truthfulness grows in concentric circles; living from the deep versus diving and coming back up; the shift from being driven to being drawn; impermanence and perseverance; how the life of expression is one of discovery, relationship, and inquiry; why “there’s always a teacher next to you”; “becoming the poem”; and more.

Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

Mark Nepo: Authentic Expression is Heart-Based

“All my work is about devotion to the messy, magnificent human journey”

—Mark Nepo

Every day, we learn. We take in more of the new. And yet, we can only respond to situations based on what we know already. We rely on the old.

Mark Nepo seems to be asking about the space between. What does it mean to grow and change with grace? What does it mean to have faith in that process? And what does this have to do with writing and expression?

We are constantly tasked to face the unknown using tools that may have only worked for us in the past (and that is freaking scary).

I believe that asking questions is elemental to human nature. But, it is impossible to truly know any of the answers.

For Mark, there is no one right way forward. There is no way out of fear. There is only a sensibility that can be adopted: that is, the willingness to listen. 

In other words, there are no objectives. There are no end products. The “answer” is in letting go of resistance to what we know, have, and are.

That way, the invisible can make itself known.

WITNESSING

“How do we talk about the things that matter that you really can’t see?”

—Mark Nepo

The ephemeral connection between ourselves and the world of essence exists within our hearts. With this practice—this practice of inner trust, perhaps even surrender—we can begin to gesture at expressing the unsayable.

What’s clear about Mark Nepo is that he is first and foremost a writer. However, his ideas can be applied to any form of expression.

To bear witness in writing, Mark advises giving full attention to whatever is in front of you, then describing it in as much detail as possible. It’s important not to make it seem magnificent or assign it “a bunch of meaning.”

Don’t evaluate it.

We are the observers and not yet the translators.

There is another part to it. Look inward. Feel what is moving through you at that moment. “Paint” that feeling with words. Don’t judge. Don’t bother with meaning. This disposition is inherently freeing. 

In this state (and I fall in and out of it even as I write this), reality moves up to our eyes like a mirror. We can look at it and hear it, be part of it.

THE INVISIBLE WORLD

“You can’t see light except for what it illuminates. All the forces that hold us and support us are invisible”

—Mark Nepo

We name things all the time. We have to. It keeps chaos at bay.

But, naming things tends to keep us separate from them. That is this and I am this and you are there and I am here.

In his Insights at the Edge episode with Tami, Mark mentions that we are accustomed to listening in this way.

We immediately assign names, places, spaces, reasons, meaning and significance to everything we see and feel. We judge and assume (partly because it is efficient; partly because we are so used to doing it).

This is in stark contrast to the “essence of wholehearted presence, however and whenever that appears.”

IMMERSION

“The truth is, I barely understand half of what comes through me. The other half leads me”

—Mark Nepo

Immersion is a different kind of listening.

Rather than naming, one engages in a mutual conversation with the world. Discovery and creation unite as the byproduct of participation in oneness.

For Mark, immersion is a way to stop resisting our naturalness and be… whatever it is we were meant to be, as humans.

When he talks about “the things that matter,” what he seems to mean is the invisible world, “that which holds us together.” In immersion, we have the chance to interact with the invisible source of our unity.

Like the fiery and untouchable sun from which our individual experiences emanate.

WHOLEHEARTEDNESS

“It’s a gift that we can’t reach what we’re trying to say or what we see, because of all that it gives us”

—Mark Nepo

In his interview, Mark says to Tami about art-making, “What matters more is our wholeheartedness than whether we do it well.”

Tami’s response struck me. “I notice, as you offer that answer, there’s a part of me that really softens.”

Creation can be a meeting place. Rather than prescribing, you meet something somewhere, and then you embrace whatever happens. You accept what is present—and in return, you are accepted just as you are.

Wholeheartedness: letting go of expectation for the sake of the unsayable.

SELF-EXPRESSION

“Just because I write it doesn’t mean that I have the meaning of it all”

—Mark Nepo

As a writing teacher, I often tell my students that if they’re stuck, they may not be empty of ideas. In fact, they may be too full.

Creating space for the heart allows the bubbles to rise up. Like attracts like. We see what we see.

“If you’re not quite there, go back to the heart of whatever the expression is about, and get closer, and get stiller, and put your defenses down, and get closer. … Go back and have a more open heart, and see what comes then.”

Sometimes, it’s unpleasant.

Sometimes, it’s utterly nonsensical.

Poetry, as one possible example of this art, has long emptied itself of pragmatic purpose and precise meaning for the sake of beauty and potentiality.

You may end up with something that you don’t understand for years. You may just take that thing out later and realize what you meant. Authentic expression is not a product. It’s a message from you to you, from the universe to the universe.

And it is always miraculous.

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This is how yoga neuroplasticity unfolds. The brain learns from experience. When we repeatedly choose awareness, the brain adapts to that choice. Patterns of calm, clarity, and steadiness become more accessible. What once required effort begins to feel more natural.

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In that recognition, there is a pause. That pause is significant. It allows for choice. Instead of being carried forward by habit, we can respond with intention. Cope points to this as a turning point in practice. It reflects a movement toward greater freedom, supported by the brain’s inherent capacity to change.

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Developing Emotional Awareness Through Practice

Yoga invites us to listen closely to what is happening within. Emotions are not abstract ideas. They are felt experiences that move through the body. By paying attention to sensations, breath, and subtle shifts, we begin to recognize emotional states as they arise.

This awareness changes our relationship with emotion. Instead of being swept away, we learn to stay present. We can name what is happening without becoming overwhelmed by it. This creates a sense of clarity that supports emotional balance.

Building Resilience Through Presence

Resilience is often thought of as strength in the face of difficulty. In yoga, resilience is cultivated through presence. When discomfort arises in practice, we are invited to stay with it, to observe it without immediately trying to change it.

This builds capacity. Over time, we develop the ability to remain steady even when emotions are intense. This steadiness carries into daily life. Challenges are still present, yet our way of meeting them shifts. There is more space, more patience, and a deeper sense of grounding.

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This shift has a meaningful impact on mental health. Patterns of rumination begin to soften. The mind becomes less caught in loops of worry or self-judgment. There is a growing sense of stability that comes from being present with what is here.

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  • It brings awareness to habitual thought patterns, allowing for a different relationship with them
  • It creates space for emotional processing by inviting presence rather than avoidance
  • It strengthens the capacity for focused attention, which supports clarity and stability
  • It deepens the connection between body and mind, helping us recognize early signals of stress

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Frequently Asked Questions About Yoga, Brain Science, and Emotional Health

What is yoga brain science in simple terms?

Yoga brain science refers to how yoga practices like breathing, movement, and meditation influence brain function. It explains how consistent practice can shape attention, emotional patterns, and overall mental well-being.

How long does it take for yoga to affect the brain?

Changes can begin with a single session, especially in stress reduction. However, lasting shifts in brain patterns and emotional responses typically develop through consistent practice over weeks or months.

Can yoga replace therapy for mental health concerns?

Yoga can support mental health, but it is not a replacement for therapy. It works well alongside professional care by helping individuals build awareness, regulate emotions, and stay grounded.

Is yoga effective for anxiety and overthinking?

Yes, many people find yoga helpful for anxiety. Practices that focus on breath and body awareness can calm the nervous system and reduce cycles of overthinking.

Do you need physical flexibility to gain mental benefits from yoga?

No. The mental and emotional benefits of yoga come from awareness and attention, not physical ability. Anyone can experience these benefits regardless of flexibility.

What type of yoga is best for brain and emotional health?

Slower, mindful practices such as Hatha, restorative, or gentle flow yoga tend to support emotional regulation and awareness. The key factor is consistency and presence, not intensity.

How does breathing in yoga affect the brain?

Breathing practices influence the nervous system by signaling safety to the body. Slow, steady breathing can reduce stress responses and support clearer thinking.

Can yoga help with emotional burnout?

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Is meditation necessary to experience yoga’s brain benefits?

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How often should someone practice yoga for mental health support?

Even a few minutes daily can be helpful. Regular, consistent practice tends to be more beneficial than occasional longer sessions.

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  • The Meaning of No Bad Parts: Richard Schwartz teaches that every part develops for a reason and often serves a protective role within a person’s inner system.
  • The Purpose of Parts Work Therapy: IFS therapy helps people build awareness and compassion toward their inner parts, supporting emotional healing and self-understanding.

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What Is Internal Family Systems and How Does It Work

Internal Family Systems is a therapeutic model developed by Richard Schwartz that views the mind as made up of different inner parts, each with its own perspective, emotions, and intentions. Instead of seeing these parts as problems, IFS therapy understands them as meaningful aspects of our inner world that developed to help us navigate life. Many people recognize this experience in moments of inner conflict, when one part of them wants to move forward while another part feels afraid or hesitant. In parts work therapy, these inner dynamics are approached with curiosity and compassion. By learning to listen to and understand these parts, people can begin to relate to themselves with greater awareness and balance.

Richard Schwartz and the Origins of Internal Family Systems

Internal Family Systems grew out of the work of family therapist Richard Schwartz. While listening to clients describe their inner struggles, he noticed that many spoke about different parts of themselves with distinct voices and roles.

How Richard Schwartz Developed IFS Therapy

During his clinical work in the 1980s, Schwartz began inviting clients to speak directly with these inner parts. He observed that the parts often had clear intentions and were trying to help in some way. This insight became the foundation of IFS therapy.

The Insight Behind “No Bad Parts”

Over time, Schwartz realized that even the most difficult reactions were protective in nature. This understanding led to the core idea in Internal Family Systems that there are no bad parts, only parts that need understanding and care.

The Core Idea Behind IFS Therapy and Inner Parts

Internal Family Systems teaches that the mind contains different parts, each shaped by life experiences. IFS therapy views these parts as meaningful aspects of the inner system that try to help a person cope, protect themselves, or manage emotional pain.

How Inner Parts Form in IFS Therapy

In parts work therapy, inner parts often develop during difficult or overwhelming experiences. These parts adopt roles that help a person handle stress, avoid pain, or maintain stability.

The Role of the Self in Internal Family Systems

IFS also describes a core presence called the Self. When people connect with the Self, they can approach their parts with calmness and compassion, allowing the inner system to move toward greater balance.

Why Richard Schwartz Says There Are No Bad Parts

Richard Schwartz teaches that many reactions we judge harshly are actually parts trying to protect us. In Internal Family Systems, these behaviors are understood as strategies that formed in response to difficult experiences. The idea of “no bad parts” invites people to look at their inner world with curiosity rather than criticism.

Why Protective Parts Form

Protective parts develop to help manage emotional pain or prevent past wounds from being triggered again. They step in to keep the person safe, even if their methods later create tension.

Seeing Difficult Reactions Through the Lens of IFS Therapy

IFS therapy encourages people to understand the intention behind their reactions. When parts are approached with compassion, it becomes easier to build trust within the inner system and support healing.

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Understanding the Roles of Parts in Parts Work Therapy

In Internal Family Systems, parts are often grouped into different roles based on how they try to protect a person’s emotional system. Richard Schwartz observed that these roles help explain why certain thoughts, reactions, and behaviors appear in stressful situations. In parts work therapy, recognizing these roles helps people understand how their inner system has been working to keep them safe.

Common Roles in Internal Family Systems

  • Managers Managers try to keep life organized and under control. These parts often focus on planning, perfectionism, or staying responsible so that painful emotions do not surface.
  • Firefighters Firefighters react quickly when emotional pain breaks through. They try to stop overwhelming feelings by distracting, numbing, or pushing their minds away from distress.
  • Exiles Exiles carry deeper emotional wounds, often connected to past hurt, rejection, or shame. Because these feelings can be intense, other parts work hard to keep them hidden or protected.

In IFS therapy, these roles are not viewed as problems. Each part was developed to help the system survive difficult experiences. As people begin to understand these roles with curiosity and compassion, they can start building a healthier relationship with every part of their inner world.

Understanding the Roles of Parts in Parts Work Therapy

In Internal Family Systems, parts take on different roles to protect a person from emotional pain. Richard Schwartz identified three common roles in IFS therapy: managers, firefighters, and exiles.

Managers try to keep life organized and controlled, often pushing people to perform well or avoid situations that may trigger painful emotions. Firefighters respond when distress surfaces and attempt to quickly reduce emotional intensity through distraction or other coping behaviors. Exiles carry deeper emotional wounds, such as shame, fear, or sadness that formed during difficult experiences.

In parts work therapy, healing begins when people approach these parts with curiosity and compassion, allowing the inner system to gradually move toward balance.

How IFS Therapy Helps You Build a Relationship With Your Parts

IFS therapy teaches people to relate to their inner parts with curiosity rather than judgment. Instead of trying to control or silence difficult reactions, Internal Family Systems encourages listening to what each part is trying to communicate.

Through this process, people begin to recognize the concerns and intentions behind their parts. As trust develops within the inner system, protective parts can relax and allow deeper healing to take place. This relationship between the Self and the parts is a central element of growth in parts work therapy.

Healing Through Internal Family Systems and the “No Bad Parts” Principle

A key teaching in Internal Family Systems is the understanding that every part has a positive intention. Richard Schwartz describes this idea as the principle of “no bad parts.” In IFS therapy, even reactions that seem unhelpful are viewed as protective strategies that developed in response to pain or stress.

By approaching these parts with compassion instead of criticism, people can begin to understand their purpose. As trust grows within the inner system, these parts often relax their roles, creating space for healing and greater inner balance.

Why Parts Work Therapy Is Transforming Modern Psychology

Parts work therapy has gained widespread attention because it offers a compassionate way to understand inner conflict. Instead of viewing difficult emotions as problems to eliminate, Internal Family Systems helps people recognize the protective roles behind their reactions. Through the teachings of Richard Schwartz and the principle of “no bad parts,” many individuals are finding a more respectful and healing relationship with their inner world. This approach continues to influence therapists, researchers, and people seeking deeper self-understanding.

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Final Thoughts

Internal Family Systems offers a compassionate way to understand our inner world. Through the work of Richard Schwartz and the practice of IFS therapy, many people are learning that the thoughts and reactions they struggle with are parts that formed to protect them. The principle of “no bad parts” invites a shift from self-judgment to curiosity and care. As people begin to listen to their inner system with respect, parts work therapy can open the door to deeper healing and a more balanced relationship with themselves.

Frequently Asked Questions About Internal Family Systems

What is the main goal of Internal Family Systems therapy?

The main goal of Internal Family Systems is to help individuals develop a healthier relationship with their inner parts. IFS therapy encourages people to approach their thoughts and emotions with curiosity so they can better understand the intentions behind them and create more balance within their internal system.

Who created Internal Family Systems?

Internal Family Systems was developed by Richard Schwartz, a family therapist who began noticing that clients often described their inner experiences as different parts interacting with one another. His observations led to the development of IFS therapy as a structured approach to understanding and healing these inner dynamics.

How is IFS therapy different from traditional talk therapy?

IFS therapy focuses on direct communication with inner parts rather than only discussing experiences at a surface level. This approach helps people understand the roles their parts play and encourages internal dialogue that can lead to deeper emotional insight and healing.

What does the phrase “no bad parts” mean in Internal Family Systems?

The phrase “no bad parts” reflects the belief that every part of the mind developed for a reason. Even parts that lead to difficult behaviors are often trying to protect a person from emotional pain or past experiences.

Can Internal Family Systems be practiced outside of therapy?

Many people apply principles of Internal Family Systems in their daily lives by paying attention to their thoughts and emotional reactions. While professional guidance can be helpful, practicing awareness and curiosity about inner parts can support personal reflection and growth.

Is Internal Family Systems useful for personal development?

Yes. Beyond clinical therapy, Internal Family Systems is widely used for personal growth. The model helps people understand their emotional patterns, strengthen self-awareness, and develop a more compassionate relationship with themselves.

Why do people experience internal conflict, according to IFS?

In IFS, internal conflict happens when different parts of the mind have competing goals or fears. One part may want safety and stability, while another may seek change or expression. Understanding these differences can help people respond to conflict with greater clarity.

Is Internal Family Systems supported by modern psychology?

Internal Family Systems has gained increasing recognition among therapists and mental health professionals. Many practitioners integrate parts work therapy into their practice because it provides a structured way to understand complex emotional patterns.

What role does self-awareness play in IFS therapy?

Self-awareness allows people to notice when different parts are active. By observing these inner reactions without immediate judgment, individuals can begin to understand the needs and motivations of their parts more clearly.

Who can benefit from Internal Family Systems therapy?

IFS therapy can benefit a wide range of people, including those interested in emotional healing, mindfulness, and personal insight. It is often helpful for individuals who want to better understand their inner experiences and build a more compassionate relationship with themselves.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

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Here, we look at how somatic abolitionism helps us understand and heal racial trauma in the body, and how these practices can be integrated into daily life.

Key Takeaways:

  • Body Awareness: Healing racial trauma begins by recognizing how the body stores and expresses stress responses shaped by lived and inherited experiences.
  • Capacity Building: Developing nervous system resilience allows individuals to stay present in difficult conversations and reduce reactive patterns.
  • Embodied Healing: Somatic abolitionism supports lasting change by engaging the body directly, not just through intellectual understanding.

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Resmaa Menakem and the Foundations of Somatic Abolitionism

What if healing racial trauma is not only something we think through, but something we experience in the body? At Sounds True, we share teachings that honor lived wisdom, and the work of Resmaa Menakem reflects this deeply. His approach invites us to move beyond analysis and into the body’s intelligence.

Somatic abolitionism recognizes that the body carries the imprint of history and survival. These patterns shape how we respond to stress and connection. Many of our reactions are not just personal, but shaped by generations held in the nervous system.

This work invites us to slow down and notice what arises. Sensations like tension, breath, and impulse offer insight. Instead of overriding them, we stay with them gently.

Healing here is not about perfection. It is about building a new relationship with the body, creating space to respond with awareness rather than react automatically.

Understanding Racial Trauma Body and Its Lasting Impact

Racial trauma lives in the body through patterns of stress and response shaped over time. These patterns influence how we experience safety, connection, and threat, often without conscious awareness. Understanding the racial trauma body helps us see these responses as learned adaptations rather than personal flaws.

How the Racial Trauma Body Forms

The racial trauma body develops through repeated experiences of stress, both lived and inherited. The nervous system adapts to protect itself, creating patterns like hypervigilance or disconnection. Over time, these responses become automatic, shaping everyday behavior and perception.

Why the Body Remembers What the Mind Forgets

The body stores memory through sensation rather than story. Even without a clear recall, it reacts to familiar patterns of stress. By noticing these sensations with awareness, we begin to understand and gently shift how the body responds.

What Somatic Abolitionism Teaches About Healing

Somatic abolitionism teaches that healing happens through the body, not just through understanding. It focuses on how the nervous system responds to stress and invites us to build awareness and regulation over time. This approach supports lasting change by working with lived experience rather than relying on insight alone.

Moving Beyond Cognitive Understanding

Knowing about trauma is different from feeling safe in the body. Somatic abolitionism encourages us to notice physical responses like tension or breath and work with them directly, creating space for more intentional reactions. Over time, this awareness helps shift automatic patterns into more grounded responses.

Building Capacity for Discomfort and Growth

Healing involves increasing the body’s ability to stay present during discomfort. By gradually building this capacity, we become less reactive and more able to engage with challenging experiences in a grounded way. This creates resilience that supports deeper connection and sustained personal growth.

My Grandmother’s Hands and Intergenerational Trauma

In My Grandmother’s Hands, Menakem brings attention to the ways trauma is carried across generations. The phrase my grandmother’s hands evokes the lineage of experience that lives within each of us.

The Legacy Carried Through My Grandmother’s Hands

Our bodies carry stories that began long before we were born. The experiences of our ancestors shape how we respond to stress, connection, and belonging. These patterns are often unconscious, yet they influence our daily lives.

Menakem encourages us to recognize this inheritance with compassion. It is not about assigning blame. It is about understanding the context in which these patterns developed. This awareness allows us to meet ourselves and others with greater empathy.

Interrupting the Cycle of Inherited Trauma

While trauma can be passed down, so can healing. Each moment of awareness creates an opportunity to shift long-held patterns. By engaging in somatic practices, we begin to offer the body new experiences of safety and regulation.

These small changes ripple outward. As individuals develop greater capacity, they contribute to a broader field of healing within families and communities. The cycle begins to shift, not through force, but through consistent, embodied presence.

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The Body as a Vessel for Racial Trauma Body and Repair

The body holds both the weight of trauma and the possibility of healing. Learning to listen to its signals is an essential part of this work.

  • The body communicates through sensation, offering cues about safety and threat
  • Patterns of tension reveal how past experiences are still being held
  • Gentle awareness allows these patterns to shift over time
  • Grounding practices support the nervous system in finding balance
  • Connection with others helps regulate and restore a sense of safety

As we deepen our relationship with the body, repair becomes something we experience directly. It unfolds gradually, through attention, patience, and care. This process invites us to trust the body’s capacity to move toward healing.

Somatic Healing Race: Practices for Regulation and Resilience

Somatic healing race is rooted in simple, consistent practices that support the nervous system. These practices invite us to slow down and notice what is present in the body. A hand placed on the chest, a moment of feeling the feet on the ground, or a conscious breath can begin to shift our state.

These moments may seem small, yet they build over time. The body learns that it can move from activation to regulation without shutting down. This creates a foundation for resilience. Instead of being carried by automatic reactions, we begin to experience choice.

Menakem reminds us that this work is ongoing. It is not about reaching a final state, but about continuing to return to the body with curiosity and care. Through this process, we develop a deeper sense of presence that supports both personal and collective healing.

How Somatic Abolitionism Supports Collective Healing

Somatic abolitionism recognizes that healing does not happen in isolation. Our nervous systems are deeply connected, and the state of one body can influence others. When individuals cultivate regulation, they contribute to a shared sense of safety.

This has important implications for communities. Conversations that might otherwise escalate can unfold with greater presence and understanding. People are more able to listen, to pause, and to respond with intention.

Collective healing is not a single event. It is a continuous process that requires commitment and care. As more individuals engage in somatic work, the potential for meaningful change expands. New patterns of interaction begin to take shape, grounded in awareness and connection.

Integrating Somatic Healing Race into Everyday Life

Integration happens through repetition and attention. Somatic healing race becomes part of daily life when we begin to notice the body in ordinary moments. Standing in line, sitting in conversation, or moving through a busy day all offer opportunities to return to sensation.

This practice does not require extra time or special conditions. It asks only for a willingness to pause and notice. Over time, these pauses become more natural. The body becomes a steady point of reference, offering guidance in moments of stress and ease alike.

At Sounds True, we believe that this kind of embodied awareness supports a deeper connection to ourselves and to one another. It allows teachings like somatic abolitionism to move beyond concept and into lived experience, where real transformation can unfold.

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Final Thoughts

Healing racial trauma asks us to move beyond ideas and into direct experience. Through somatic abolitionism, Resmaa Menakem reminds us that the body holds both the imprint of harm and the capacity for repair. As we learn to listen, stay present, and build capacity, we begin to shift patterns that have lived within us for generations. This work unfolds one moment at a time, grounded in awareness, care, and a willingness to return to the body.

Frequently Asked Questions About Resmaa Menakem and Somatic Abolitionism

Who is Resmaa Menakem, and why is his work important?

Resmaa Menakem is a therapist and trauma specialist who focuses on how racialized experiences are stored in the body. His work is important because it brings attention to the physical dimension of trauma, offering a path that complements traditional psychological and social approaches.

What makes somatic abolitionism different from traditional activism?

Somatic abolitionism emphasizes internal regulation and embodied awareness alongside external action. It recognizes that sustainable change requires individuals to work with their nervous systems, not just their beliefs or behaviors.

Is somatic abolitionism only relevant for certain racial groups?

No, this work is for all bodies. While experiences differ across racial identities, everyone carries patterns shaped by history and culture. Somatic abolitionism invites each person to engage with their own embodied experience.

Can somatic practices replace therapy or counseling?

Somatic practices can support healing, but they are not a replacement for professional care when it is needed. They are best understood as complementary tools that deepen awareness and regulation.

How long does it take to see results from somatic healing practices?

The timeline varies for each person. Some may notice small shifts quickly, while deeper patterns may take time to change. Consistency and patience are key elements of this work.

Do I need prior experience with mindfulness to begin somatic work?

No prior experience is required. Somatic work often begins with very simple awareness practices that are accessible to anyone, regardless of background.

What challenges might arise when starting somatic abolitionism?

People may encounter discomfort as they begin to notice sensations that were previously ignored. This is a natural part of the process and can be approached gradually with care and support.

How does community support enhance somatic healing?

Being in regulated, supportive environments helps the nervous system feel safe. This shared sense of safety can deepen individual healing and strengthen relational connections.

Are there specific environments that support somatic healing more effectively?

Quiet, safe, and grounded environments can help, but somatic awareness can also be practiced in everyday settings. The key factor is the ability to bring attention to the body without overwhelm.

How can someone stay consistent with somatic practices?

Consistency grows through simplicity. Choosing small, repeatable practices and integrating them into daily routines makes it easier to maintain them over time.

Michelle Cassandra Johnson is an author, activist, spiritual teacher, racial equity consultant, and intuitive healer. She is the author of six books, including Skill in Action and Finding Refuge. Amy Burtaine is a leadership coach and racial equity trainer. With Robin DiAngelo, she is the coauthor of The Facilitator's Guide for White Affinity Groups. For more, visit https://www.michellecjohnson.com/wisdom-of-the-hive.

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